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partial severance- employed several years, but leaving early

 
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quercus



Joined: 04 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:30 pm    Post subject: partial severance- employed several years, but leaving early Reply with quote

hi,
my wife is wondering if severance is cumulative/pro-rated after the first year. she has worked for the same employer for 3 years. this year she will end her contract early (they know, its touchy, but going...we had a baby so time to visit families).

what she is wondering is do they have to pay her partial severance for a partial year if she has worked several years?? so if she has worked 3.4 years and they have paid her severence the first 3 years do they owe her 0.4 years worth of severance when she leaves? if she is ending before her contract is up?

thanks
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If she's cashed it out each year, the employer is not obligated to pay for a part-year.
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OculisOrbis



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

short answer: no, she wont get partial severance

if she took her severance each year, they dont have to prorate for her last partial year. severance is paid for complete years only and then it resets when paid. if she never took or even if she didnt take severance after last year, then she would be entitled to full severance for the completed years and prorated for the partial.
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yoja



Joined: 30 May 2008

PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a disclaimer, I don't know for sure and apart from calling up the foreigner helpline or the labor board, I don't know how or where to find an accurate answer.

That being said, I have HEARD that IF you don't collect it each year, if you instead take it all as a lump sum at the end of your employment, then you get the additional prorated portion for the extra months you have worked. If you collect the payment each year, then you are not entitled to the extra months' portion unless it is specified in your contract.

But that's all hearsay, so again, it might be true or it might not be. Please post what happens to you, though, because I'll be in the same boat in a few short months and I've been wondering this as well.

Edit: yeah, what they ^ said.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yoja wrote:
As a disclaimer, I don't know for sure and apart from calling up the foreigner helpline or the labor board, I don't know how or where to find an accurate answer.

That being said, I have HEARD that IF you don't collect it each year, if you instead take it all as a lump sum at the end of your employment, then you get the additional prorated portion for the extra months you have worked. If you collect the payment each year, then you are not entitled to the extra months' portion unless it is specified in your contract.

But that's all hearsay, so again, it might be true or it might not be. Please post what happens to you, though, because I'll be in the same boat in a few short months and I've been wondering this as well.

Edit: yeah, what they ^ said.


You could always read the relevant act under the labor code and know for sure. Look for the "Employee Retirement Benefit Security Act"

http://www.moel.go.kr/english/topic/laborlaw.jsp?tab=Standards

If it is any consolation, I can find NO article in the act to allow for pro-rated severance but that does not mean that it doesn't exist.

Articles 8 and 9 are the relevant ones here.

Article 8 (Establishment of Retirement Pay System)

(1) An employer who intends to set up a retirement pay
system shall set up the system that makes it possible to pay
workers who retire 30 days or more of average wages for each
year of their consecutive service as retirement pay
.

(2) Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraph (1), an
employer may, in case a worker demands, pay the worker the
amount of retirement pay corresponding to his/her consecutive
service period earlier than his/her retirement.
In this case, the
consecutive service period to be used for the calculation of the
amount of retirement pay accumulated thereafter shall be
reckoned anew from the time when the balances were settled.


Article 9 (Payment of Retirement Pay)

If a worker retires, the employer shall pay retirement pay to
the worker within 14 days from the date on which there occurs
a cause for the payment : Provided that in special circumstances,
the date of payment may be put off under the agreement
between the parties concerned

.
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OculisOrbis



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The payment of a partial year is covered in the FAQ's (#27) for the Ministry of Labor. Scroll to the bottom for a calculation example.

http://www.moel.go.kr/english/dont_miss/faq_view.jsp?idx=136
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jonpurdy



Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: Ulsan

PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, if she didn't collect before then she gets partial severance. If she did collect each year then she doesn't get it.

I tried to get my school to NOT pay mine last year because I knew I'd have to leave a month early but they insisted on paying it.
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Njord



Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jonpurdy wrote:
Yep, if she didn't collect before then she gets partial severance. If she did collect each year then she doesn't get it.

I tried to get my school to NOT pay mine last year because I knew I'd have to leave a month early but they insisted on paying it.


I didn't think an employer could do this. The act quoted above says "in the case a worker demands" which seems to imply that it is the worker's decision. Also, in order to get my severance paid before leaving my employer, I had to fill out a form requesting it. My understanding is that the default is for the employer to pay all of the severance when you leave.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OculisOrbis wrote:
The payment of a partial year is covered in the FAQ's (#27) for the Ministry of Labor. Scroll to the bottom for a calculation example.

http://www.moel.go.kr/english/dont_miss/faq_view.jsp?idx=136


Yes, I am aware of it there but I have NOT been able to find the law (act and article) that actually allows/requires it.

Hard to fight a case at the labor board based on a FAQ and not the actual legislation or decree (even though it appears to not be relevant in this case anyway due to early withdrawal of the previous funds).

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