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13 years ago, minor in possession of alcohol. Can I get E2?
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jfromtheway



Joined: 20 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bobbybigfoot wrote:
If you were under 18, I would think it would not show up.
Over 18, then it likely will.


Slight modification, assuming you are American:

If you were under 18, it will not show up.
Over 18, then it will.

I enjoy reading the paranoid, long-haul expat comments about how "a criminal is a criminal," forgetting that everyone here comes from a nation where the law is based on the interpretation of that particular law, by lawyers and employers. It's sad to see how blindly people buy into these non-sensical, no tolerance robot Asian people social policies/standards: Every Asian country is a narco-police state, but we'll stick up for that since we're all simply guests. Let's also never attribute blame for specifying their desire to only hire women for certain positions, or almost never hiring black people. And it's sad to see the OP trying to go out of his way to apologize for something that is nothing, just so he won't get reamed on this board. What happens in one month when his state expunges the MIP and tosses it away like it never existed in the first place? Why, of course, he's now qualified to take your job.
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sirius black



Joined: 04 Jun 2010

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^
Yeah that!
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calicoe



Joined: 23 Dec 2008
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jfromtheway wrote:
bobbybigfoot wrote:
If you were under 18, I would think it would not show up.
Over 18, then it likely will.


Slight modification, assuming you are American:

If you were under 18, it will not show up.
Over 18, then it will.

I enjoy reading the paranoid, long-haul expat comments about how "a criminal is a criminal," forgetting that everyone here comes from a nation where the law is based on the interpretation of that particular law, by lawyers and employers. It's sad to see how blindly people buy into these non-sensical, no tolerance robot Asian people social policies/standards: Every Asian country is a narco-police state, but we'll stick up for that since we're all simply guests. Let's also never attribute blame for specifying their desire to only hire women for certain positions, or almost never hiring black people. And it's sad to see the OP trying to go out of his way to apologize for something that is nothing, just so he won't get reamed on this board. What happens in one month when his state expunges the MIP and tosses it away like it never existed in the first place? Why, of course, he's now qualified to take your job.


Here, here!!! Let's also not forget their near deification of blonde or very pale white males, and especially, older Korean males. I mean, older Korean males can fall asleep in their own vomit on cold concrete in the middle of a footpath, or spank middle school girls on their bottoms and obviously enjoy it - in front of everyone - and the rabid, reactionary, xenophobic teacher's union will do EVERYTHING to make sure they are employed for life. And yet, here are the foreigners, fking completely paranoid about carrying around a few drinks when they were not yet legal adults. WTF??? This has long crossed the line of respectable decency, and common sense and sanity. They can go SUSS themselves, seriously.

And yes, I've had a few drinks, so motherf-ing sue me.
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jrwhite82



Joined: 22 May 2010

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does any of that have to do with a CBC?
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Radius



Joined: 20 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jfromtheway wrote:
bobbybigfoot wrote:
If you were under 18, I would think it would not show up.
Over 18, then it likely will.


Slight modification, assuming you are American:

If you were under 18, it will not show up.
Over 18, then it will.

I enjoy reading the paranoid, long-haul expat comments about how "a criminal is a criminal," forgetting that everyone here comes from a nation where the law is based on the interpretation of that particular law, by lawyers and employers. It's sad to see how blindly people buy into these non-sensical, no tolerance robot Asian people social policies/standards: Every Asian country is a narco-police state, but we'll stick up for that since we're all simply guests. Let's also never attribute blame for specifying their desire to only hire women for certain positions, or almost never hiring black people. And it's sad to see the OP trying to go out of his way to apologize for something that is nothing, just so he won't get reamed on this board. What happens in one month when his state expunges the MIP and tosses it away like it never existed in the first place? Why, of course, he's now qualified to take your job.


Wrong. If he wasn't fingerprinted (which he says he wasn't), then his prints were never logged into the NCIC (which when fingerprinted, are ran into this database by the Clerk of Courts during the arrest process) which means the FBI computer does not have a "record" of this offense and is therefore impossible to trace back BY FINGERPRINTS.

That being said, the only agencies allowed to search that far for his particular offense are police officers and security clearance personnel (which is not the case for a measly run-of-the-mill visa CBC).
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davemon



Joined: 16 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radius wrote:
jfromtheway wrote:
bobbybigfoot wrote:
If you were under 18, I would think it would not show up.
Over 18, then it likely will.


Slight modification, assuming you are American:

If you were under 18, it will not show up.
Over 18, then it will.

I enjoy reading the paranoid, long-haul expat comments about how "a criminal is a criminal," forgetting that everyone here comes from a nation where the law is based on the interpretation of that particular law, by lawyers and employers. It's sad to see how blindly people buy into these non-sensical, no tolerance robot Asian people social policies/standards: Every Asian country is a narco-police state, but we'll stick up for that since we're all simply guests. Let's also never attribute blame for specifying their desire to only hire women for certain positions, or almost never hiring black people. And it's sad to see the OP trying to go out of his way to apologize for something that is nothing, just so he won't get reamed on this board. What happens in one month when his state expunges the MIP and tosses it away like it never existed in the first place? Why, of course, he's now qualified to take your job.


Wrong. If he wasn't fingerprinted (which he says he wasn't), then his prints were never logged into the NCIC (which when fingerprinted, are ran into this database by the Clerk of Courts during the arrest process) which means the FBI computer does not have a "record" of this offense and is therefore impossible to trace back BY FINGERPRINTS.

That being said, the only agencies allowed to search that far for his particular offense are police officers and security clearance personnel (which is not the case for a measly run-of-the-mill visa CBC).


Thanks man. I suspect this is the case as well. This offense is a lessor offense than a misdemeanor in my state, so it is the same as a traffic citation in that regard. It will be another few weeks, however I'm starting to have more confidence that it won't appear.

If it does, I'll try to work through it. Hopefully because it has been 13 years since the infraction, nobody will care anyway.

Thanks for all the help everyone. I am preparing for this huge change in my life and started freaking out when I remembered about this thing from so long ago.
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yoja



Joined: 30 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hopefully ... nobody will care anyway.


Yeah, hopefully they won't mind another imperialistic foreigner coming to molest innocent Korean children with their evil alcohol-guzzling ways.

Twisted Evil Just kiddin'. I'm with Calicoe on this one. It's a farce.
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Robbo



Joined: 05 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm also with Calicoe. I've had a lot of drinks too.
That being said, if they don't take you try again. Sounds like a pretty minor offense and certainly shouldn't show up on an FBI check. That would be truly unjust. (what do I know though?)
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sallymonster



Joined: 06 Feb 2010
Location: Seattle area

PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jfromtheway wrote:
bobbybigfoot wrote:
If you were under 18, I would think it would not show up.
Over 18, then it likely will.


Slight modification, assuming you are American:

If you were under 18, it will not show up.
Over 18, then it will.

I enjoy reading the paranoid, long-haul expat comments about how "a criminal is a criminal," forgetting that everyone here comes from a nation where the law is based on the interpretation of that particular law, by lawyers and employers. It's sad to see how blindly people buy into these non-sensical, no tolerance robot Asian people social policies/standards: Every Asian country is a narco-police state, but we'll stick up for that since we're all simply guests. Let's also never attribute blame for specifying their desire to only hire women for certain positions, or almost never hiring black people. And it's sad to see the OP trying to go out of his way to apologize for something that is nothing, just so he won't get reamed on this board. What happens in one month when his state expunges the MIP and tosses it away like it never existed in the first place? Why, of course, he's now qualified to take your job.


Let's also not forget how ridiculous American drinking laws are. At 18 years old, you can die for your country, but you can't have a drink? Such BS.
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calicoe



Joined: 23 Dec 2008
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So true.

Well, time for a drink at the local convenience store. Luckily I'm over 18, so I can buy an entire bottle of soju and drink myself into the pavement and still be up in time for spanking - uh, I mean - shaping young minds tomorrow.

Laughing Nah, I jest. I don't go near that soju gas. I'll start the red wine with dinner.

Come to think of it OP, I was arrested at 13 for "drinking in public" out of a can of beer in a park, and it was expunged. I'm sure it will be the same for you. Don't lose any sleep.
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bigfourie



Joined: 05 Nov 2010
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A 'friend' of mine got caught drinking in public in South Africa, cops took him in wagon he got finger printed, pleaded guilty.

he has received working visas in other countries since this has happened.

dont think if anything small and alcohol related is something you should worry about
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jurassic82



Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Location: Somewhere!!!!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had two Minor in the possession of alcohol tickets. Never showed up on my police record. If you weren't arrested then you will be fine. The FBI Criminal Check will come back "No Arrest Record Found" Ignore the rest of the posts and welcome to Korea where you will have no problem drinking in public and finding a bar that is open after 2am.
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seou1ite



Joined: 27 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can say for a fact that my CRC has a DUI on it from 10 years ago and Immigration approved my E2 with no questions asked. I believe it is the severity of your offense with regard to Korean society. I honestly don't see an MUI posing a threat to your application. Call immigration and talk to them directly and they will tell you it is up to the discretion of the individual immigration officer. Dress nice, be cordial, be humble, and you should be fine.
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