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nathanrutledge
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Location: Marakesh
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| I think hardship duty at a tekkie school (especially if also rural) (extra points) is a minimum of 2 years. Then you can apply to go elsewhere and where and whether you can go will depend on your "points". |
Actually, I've heard some rural tech schools aren't so bad. It might be that they are in smaller towns that parents and teachers might be socially allowed to come down harder on them for misbehavior than their city counterparts. They do have different names like 'industrial', 'commercial', or 'agricultural' schools. |
Well now, be careful. The government is attempting to remove the stigma of these schools by changing the names from "technical" to other, not so damning words. I myself don't work at a "technical" school, but at a "digital" school. Of course, all the neighborhood maps still list the place as a technical school.
I think the biggest thing for the rural agricultural schools is those kids ARE agricultural - that's what they are going to do, whereas in the city there are other visible options that have been closed to the students and they can see it and become resentful. I've heard the same thing from many friends and colleagues - the countryside is the place to be for a teach school, but still, not by much.  |
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jacksthirty
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OP. Welcome to the wonderful world of Technical High Schools. It seems Siheung is quite keen on Tech schools. I should know, I work for one! I signed on for another year recently. I'm still wondering why on earth I did that for. Oh well, only another 9 months to go!
A bit of advice, learn about teaching phonics (there's a short thread I posted about it last week) and task based activities. It works for me. Don't plan to hard. I've spent ages planning a lesson thinking that it would work only to watch it go down the toilet in the first five minutes. Don't worry too much if the students are loud and uncontrollable, it's not you. They are like that in every lesson.
Let me know if you want any other advice! As others have said in past threads, working in a Technical High School is essentially being in the trenches in the esl world. Sometimes you'll wonder why you ever bothered! |
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winterfall
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Well now, be careful. The government is attempting to remove the stigma of these schools by changing the names from "technical" to other, not so damning words. I myself don't work at a "technical" school, but at a "digital" school. Of course, all the neighborhood maps still list the place as a technical school.
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Didn't they already change the stigma from "Industrial" to "Technical"? My school has a really fancy english name. Easy to mistake it for a science academy but all the korean lettering still says "Industrial High School"
OP dido on teaching in the trenches. Imagine an inner city school back home, multiply it by 2 and add the language barrier and you've got a technical high school. |
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Vagabundo
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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in Korean you'll hear "gong goh".
goh is high school.
gong is technical. The name of the school will be first. aka Seoul Gong Go.
Seoul Technical Highschool. |
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Vagabundo
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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| It seems Siheung is quite keen on Tech schools |
isn't Siheung home to one of the biggest if not the biggest industrial parks/factory areas in Korea?
consider the socio economic background and then ask yourself how many top academic performers you'll find in that environment.
In many ways you're dealing with the Korean version of the American ghetto inner city school. , aka broken homes, it's not "cool" to study, etc etc
Met a guy at orientation who's been working in Siheung for 6 years! at all kinds of public schools at all levels (not a tekkie HS though) When I asked him why stays there (not a particularly pleasant area to live at all) he told me at all schools he got the rural money bonus with the extra week of vacation. He's not out on the farm, just in a factory zone. |
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emmahearst
Joined: 10 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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You should try to motivate them somehow.
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I'm at a Technical high school and I hate it.
Well, not necessarily hate it. It is what you make of it.
My kids have no motivation, they don't do anything, I never get to accomplish anything worthwhile. It's more baby sitting than teaching.
Don't get me wrong, I have some awesome students, but I rarely get to do anything with them as I'm always busy with the trouble makers. The teachers here are always busy dealing with shenanigans.
It's not for the feint of heart. |
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silkhighway
Joined: 24 Oct 2010
Location: Canada
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My suggestion if you work at a tech high school. Go in everyday with a big energetic smile, try your best and then...
...don't take it to heart when you completely fail, haha. |
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winterfall
Joined: 21 May 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| emmahearst wrote: |
You should try to motivate them somehow.
| nathanrutledge wrote: |
I'm at a Technical high school and I hate it.
Well, not necessarily hate it. It is what you make of it.
My kids have no motivation, they don't do anything, I never get to accomplish anything worthwhile. It's more baby sitting than teaching.
Don't get me wrong, I have some awesome students, but I rarely get to do anything with them as I'm always busy with the trouble makers. The teachers here are always busy dealing with shenanigans.
It's not for the feint of heart. |
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Its easy to say when you don't teach at one. On the occasional day you do get every one excited and actively participate (Without bribing) which is no easy feat. It's gone by next week. When your teaching this level its UNGODLY hard to find something interesting yet easy enough for them to do |
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Vagabundo
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| winterfall wrote: |
| emmahearst wrote: |
You should try to motivate them somehow.
| nathanrutledge wrote: |
I'm at a Technical high school and I hate it.
Well, not necessarily hate it. It is what you make of it.
My kids have no motivation, they don't do anything, I never get to accomplish anything worthwhile. It's more baby sitting than teaching.
Don't get me wrong, I have some awesome students, but I rarely get to do anything with them as I'm always busy with the trouble makers. The teachers here are always busy dealing with shenanigans.
It's not for the feint of heart. |
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Its easy to say when you don't teach at one. On the occasional day you do get every one excited and actively participate (Without bribing) which is no easy feat. It's gone by next week. When your teaching this level its UNGODLY hard to find something interesting yet easy enough for them to do |
I've found a thing. 
But I can't do it in class.
I have 95% boys and they always talk about porno, and downloading porno. They also like drawing errogenous zones of both males and females, often on the school desks.
I was going to have them make their own short porno film in English where they'd be learning the imperative tense 
I can guarantee you they'd be plenty interested, and they'd probably learn something, but like I said.. it's a brilliant idea what will never see the light of day |
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winterfall
Joined: 21 May 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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I've found a thing.
But I can't do it in class.
I have 95% boys and they always talk about porno, and downloading porno. They also like drawing errogenous zones of both males and females, often on the school desks.
I was going to have them make their own short porno film in English where they'd be learning the imperative tense |
Why not do a drawing activity like it and pretend to get angry when they all make porno scenes? |
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silkhighway
Joined: 24 Oct 2010
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| winterfall wrote: |
Its easy to say when you don't teach at one. On the occasional day you do get every one excited and actively participate (Without bribing) which is no easy feat. It's gone by next week. When your teaching this level its UNGODLY hard to find something interesting yet easy enough for them to do |
Yeah, all you can do is try. I'm a bit of an optimist here but even if the kids don't learn too much English, some of your enthusiasm *may* rub off on a *couple of* the students. Don't be expecting your life story to be made into a Korean ESL version of this movie though. |
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Vagabundo
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| winterfall wrote: |
| Vagabundo wrote: |
I've found a thing.
But I can't do it in class.
I have 95% boys and they always talk about porno, and downloading porno. They also like drawing errogenous zones of both males and females, often on the school desks.
I was going to have them make their own short porno film in English where they'd be learning the imperative tense |
Why not do a drawing activity like it and pretend to get angry when they all make porno scenes? |
that'd be hard to do. I'd almost surely start laughing, instead of even a fair pretend to be angry job. Which probably wouldn't go over super well with my female Korean coteachers |
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winterfall
Joined: 21 May 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Vagabundo wrote: |
| winterfall wrote: |
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I've found a thing.
But I can't do it in class.
I have 95% boys and they always talk about porno, and downloading porno. They also like drawing errogenous zones of both males and females, often on the school desks.
I was going to have them make their own short porno film in English where they'd be learning the imperative tense |
Why not do a drawing activity like it and pretend to get angry when they all make porno scenes? |
that'd be hard to do. I'd almost surely start laughing, instead of even a fair pretend to be angry job. Which probably wouldn't go over super well with my female Korean coteachers |
LMAO... that reminds me. We did a gap fill in class and they had to draw pictures of what the sentence meant. (Its the only way to check if they really know what the hell they're writing) Someone wrote I "DPed" her with a really graphic picture.
Instead of getting angry my female co-teacher was trying to figure out what "DP" meant. She kept asking me... I was like umm...... it's not my place to say. Ask your husband |
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Vagabundo
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| winterfall wrote: |
| Vagabundo wrote: |
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| Vagabundo wrote: |
I've found a thing.
But I can't do it in class.
I have 95% boys and they always talk about porno, and downloading porno. They also like drawing errogenous zones of both males and females, often on the school desks.
I was going to have them make their own short porno film in English where they'd be learning the imperative tense |
Why not do a drawing activity like it and pretend to get angry when they all make porno scenes? |
that'd be hard to do. I'd almost surely start laughing, instead of even a fair pretend to be angry job. Which probably wouldn't go over super well with my female Korean coteachers |
LMAO... that reminds me. We did a gap fill in class and they had to draw pictures of what the sentence meant. (Its the only way to check if they really know what the hell they're writing) Someone wrote I "DPed" her with a really graphic picture.
Instead of getting angry my female co-teacher was trying to figure out what "DP" meant. She kept asking me... I was like umm...... it's not my place to say. Ask your husband |
DP?
I'd be rolling on the floor with laughter.
hey, how's her husband supposed to know?? 
anyways, I would have asked the kid just how he managed to do that by himself (because he used "I")
it's either "we" or he had some toys but in English the term implies a plural |
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winterfall
Joined: 21 May 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Vagabundo wrote: |
| winterfall wrote: |
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| winterfall wrote: |
| Vagabundo wrote: |
I've found a thing.
But I can't do it in class.
I have 95% boys and they always talk about porno, and downloading porno. They also like drawing errogenous zones of both males and females, often on the school desks.
I was going to have them make their own short porno film in English where they'd be learning the imperative tense |
Why not do a drawing activity like it and pretend to get angry when they all make porno scenes? |
that'd be hard to do. I'd almost surely start laughing, instead of even a fair pretend to be angry job. Which probably wouldn't go over super well with my female Korean coteachers |
LMAO... that reminds me. We did a gap fill in class and they had to draw pictures of what the sentence meant. (Its the only way to check if they really know what the hell they're writing) Someone wrote I "DPed" her with a really graphic picture.
Instead of getting angry my female co-teacher was trying to figure out what "DP" meant. She kept asking me... I was like umm...... it's not my place to say. Ask your husband |
DP?
I'd be rolling on the floor with laughter.
hey, how's her husband supposed to know??
anyways, I would have asked the kid just how he managed to do that by himself (because he used "I")
it's either "we" or he had some toys but in English the term implies a plural |
lol it was priceless. You know them, they're grammar's all over the place. Thank god nobody in school knew what it meant, even the male teachers. Surprising right? So he only got punished for the pic which was a heavily grayed sketch. Hard to sort out the details unless you knew what the sentence meant. If they knew they would've kicked him out. |
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