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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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so bascially for the 100.000 won that just lets you use the equipment in the gym.. which are bags, weights, speedballs etc???
So the coaches don't actually teach classes then? so for a beginner who doesn't even know how to use the bag, has no form, no technique etc how will he benefit from this place? |
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goosechase
Joined: 15 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:44 am Post subject: Hey ccikulin when do you go usually? |
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| I just signed up yesterday, and I've been going in the afternoons since im on vacation. It's my first time boxing so I'm definitely beginner, but training with other people seems like it'd be fun. |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:30 am Post subject: |
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| Can you talk more about this "pro test." My trainer doesn't know much english other than boxing terminology and he keeps saying "pro test" and points to the calendar in June. Do you have any idea what type of skill level these people are and any other details about the tournament? I'm you're weight class as well. |
A pro test refers to a Pro Boxing License exam. If you pass, you're officially licensed to fight in professional boxing matches anywhere in the world. it also means you can't fight in amateur matches anymore.
I took the test a year after I started boxing. To tell you the truth, unless you really want to fight professionally (which you don't always have to do as a career), I advise against taking the test. For most boxing gym owners in Korea, it's just another way for them to make money. It's sort of like the Taekwondo black belt of boxing; it's just something you do. In my opinion, it's a waste to spend money (you do have to pay a fee), train your ass off, starve yourself to make weight, and get your ass beat all for a license you'll never use in your life.
As for the actual procedures, it's really simple. You'll have applied for a weight class prior to the test so they'll weigh you at the day of the test. Then some doctors will do a quick examination of your health, which consists of asking you if you're healthy (here's a tip for passing: answer, "I"m healthy!"). They pair you up randomly with some other dude(girls get paired with girls) of your weight class and later you guys fight. If there's an odd number of people, somebody ends up just shadow boxing in front of the judges and they'll look at his form.
Qualification depends on how well you perform in your fight. Generally, guys who lose (no matter the circumstance) fail and the guys who win pass. If you beat the guy's ass you qualify. Sometimes if the fight is even and both guys look good, they both pass. I've seen a girl pass because her opponent sprained her elbow while punching. Just like most things in Korea, it's really half-assed. American and Japanese professional boxing exams are much more thorough but since your license is valid anywhere in the world, it doesn't matter where you get it. There are Japanese boxers who come to Korea to get their licenses because the health requirements are more strict in Japan.
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so bascially for the 100.000 won that just lets you use the equipment in the gym.. which are bags, weights, speedballs etc???
So the coaches don't actually teach classes then? so for a beginner who doesn't even know how to use the bag, has no form, no technique etc how will he benefit from this place? |
Legit boxing gyms that produce fighters do not teach in the form of classes. Most gyms you sign up, go whenever during the time the gym is open and use the facilities. In Korea, the gym owner is also the trainer so he will teach beginners the basic. For more experienced guys, we're left to our own devices to improve. Our trainer gives us tips or new techniques here and then, but unless you're a fighter, you won't get much attention. This is normal in boxing culture. In the States, high quality trainers won't give a damn about you unless you prove yourself worthy of their attention or have the money. Korean trainers actually teach their hobbyists a lot compared to trainers of other countries. In my gym, I improve by both entering in fights (that's when my trainer really teaches me a lot) and sparring guys more experienced than me. I get to spar amateur champs and professional rookies.
By the way, if your boxing gym doesn't have a lot of sparring that is a bad bad sign. In my gym I can get sparring pretty much everytime I go. |
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goosechase
Joined: 15 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:25 am Post subject: |
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By the way, if your boxing gym doesn't have a lot of sparring that is a bad bad sign. In my gym I can get sparring pretty much everytime I go. |
Yeah I haven't seen anyone sparring at this gym yet, but maybe it's because I'm going in the afternoons so no one's really around. It's mostly high school kids. Where's the gym you go to?
What would you recommend as the minimum amount of time training before starting to spar? The guy at the gym told me at least 3 months. I'm sure I'm not ready yet, but I'd like to get in there sooner rather than later. |
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fake_blood
Joined: 02 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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ccikulin,
Do you happen to know the exact locations of the the Jeongja and Migeum gyms you mentioned? (and their rates?). I'm near Migeum Station and I have an interest in getting into boxing. Mostly for health purposes at this point, but maybe carrying it further if I find that I enjoy it. Going to a gym where instructors speak some English would be a plus, but not an absolute requirement. Thanks! |
+1 I also live near migeum and would be interested in checking it out. |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:29 am Post subject: |
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By the way, if your boxing gym doesn't have a lot of sparring that is a bad bad sign. In my gym I can get sparring pretty much everytime I go. |
Yeah I haven't seen anyone sparring at this gym yet, but maybe it's because I'm going in the afternoons so no one's really around. It's mostly high school kids. Where's the gym you go to?
What would you recommend as the minimum amount of time training before starting to spar? The guy at the gym told me at least 3 months. I'm sure I'm not ready yet, but I'd like to get in there sooner rather than later. |
Depends all on the gym and how well you progress (or how well your trainer thinks you're progressing). For me it took me about 5months until my first sparring session because my trainer thought that I sucked when I first started. A trainer has to worry about your health as well. For some people it takes a month. For some, a year. |
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ccikulin
Joined: 23 Mar 2008
Location: Sunae-dong, Bundang
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:01 am Post subject: |
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Fermentation is pretty spot on with what he's saying here. Most good gyms will not teach you in a class setting, but most trainers in Korea will get you started with the basics and have you drill your stance and one-two, but aside from that, unless you're showing a lot of interest and progress, they won't do anything more advanced. The best way to get better is to work with other guys in the gym who have experience and spar with people better than you.
I've been pretty frustrated at my gym lately because there aren't too many real fighters there and the one guy I usually spar with hurt his leg and hasn't been to the gym for a while.
@fakeblood, I'm not sure where the gyms in Migeum and Jeongja are, but I can check with a friend of mine who used to work out at the gym in Migeum and see if I can get some directions for you. However, I wouldn't recommend that gym as a place to really learn how to box. It's more of a fitness gym and the trainer doesn't seem very good. My friend who worked out there, used to come train with me and another buddy on the weekends and he said he learned a lot more training with us. He finally got sick of it and quit.
@ goosechase, what gym are you working out at? If you're going to the gym in Sunae, let me know what time you're going there and I'll try to get in at the same time and show you some stuff, and do some light sparring. |
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goosechase
Joined: 15 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah I'm at the one that's in between seohyeon and sunae right at the edge of sunae. I've been going around 3 cause im on vacation right now, but I could go later too if you can't make it then. It's a funny mix of people there, its either your typical korean teenagers or guys who look like they would murder me in a fight. One guy I've been talking to is super nice and has been helping me out though, he's a huge vitor belfort fan and apparently learned everything he knows from his youtube videos. Too bad he didn't learn how not to get front kicked on the chin 
Anyways, I'm still learning how to throw the jab/straight (I've been three times since i started on tuesday). Next week he's gonna give me the gloves and everything so I'll be at least punching the bags and stuff. I can go later if that's when you can make it, I'm not even sure if they'll let me in the ring but maybe if you promise not to put me in a coma they'd be cool with it... |
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ccikulin
Joined: 23 Mar 2008
Location: Sunae-dong, Bundang
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Alright, well that's the gym I go to as well. I haven't been in for about a month because I've been on vacation and also been pretty lazy. But I'm still on vacation this week until Thursday. So, I'll go in Monday around 3 if that's good for you. The coach will let you spar with me for sure. He kinda lets me do whatever I want. |
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goosechase
Joined: 15 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Hey sorry if i missed you. I just got the message yesterday and was stuck with my lady all day, though she did buy me dinner so maybe it was worth it. I'll be there today, maybe see you then. |
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burgerdance
Joined: 16 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Chuck,
how you been doing? I joined the gym right by Yatap, its okay I get a bit of sparring done, but everyone are basically new to sparring. You mentioned your friend just came on weekends, did he have to pay or work something out with your coach? I'm thinking about sticking to my gym and maybe come by on weekends just to spar. Would I have to talk to your coach, or is he usually pretty hungover most Saturdays to even care? |
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skorea10
Joined: 22 Nov 2010
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:52 am Post subject: |
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I've been pretty frustrated at my gym lately because there aren't too many real fighters there and the one guy I usually spar with hurt his leg and hasn't been to the gym for a while.
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Ah that sucks. My gym gots all sorts of guys to spar. We even got MMA fighters and kickboxers looking to improve their hands.
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| I joined the gym right by Yatap, its okay I get a bit of sparring done, but everyone are basically new to sparring. |
Good to hear there's a gym in Yatap. I might move there sometime in the near future.
Here's a question for you guys: How hard do you guys spar at your gym? At mine, we have professional fighters so most sparring is pretty much like a real fight except we let up when the other guy's hurt. I'll have to change gyms when I move and I don't wanna go to one where we're not allowed to really hit eachother. |
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fermentation
Joined: 22 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:55 am Post subject: Re: Boxing gym in Jeongja, Bundang. |
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One thing I'll never understand about Korea boxing gyms is, why does every single one I've seen have hardwood flooring, and almost none of them have a full sized ring? |
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burgerdance
Joined: 16 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:53 am Post subject: |
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I spar pretty regularly, but most of the guys I spar are still new, but a couple of them fight in tournaments for novices so they spar somewhat hard but they always tell me to go soft, so I just jab more than usual. Once in a while I might clock someone pretty hard, by accident, then they go all ape shit on me, but its okay thats the type of sparring I need from time to time.
hey, that gym in Jeongja, when you say Saturdays is free training, does that mean anyone can come in or is it just that the coach just sits back that day? |
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