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GreyRabbit
Joined: 29 Jan 2011 Location: Wandering...
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:41 pm Post subject: Married couples? |
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Hullo,
It seems to me that many people who go to teach in Korea start out single (as in, not married, regardless of a bf or gf) and I also read somewhere that women who find out they're pregnant have a higher chance of getting the boot because the boss doesn't wanna pay maternity leave or whatever.
As for me, I'm engaged, and my intended and I both would like to go to Korea to teach after we get married (both his parents are Korean and they moved to the U.S., so he's Korean-American as he was born here). Are there enough jobs for married couples? Or do they strongly prefer singles?
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jrwhite82

Joined: 22 May 2010
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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Your best bet for a couple's position is to shoot your applications out to as many employers and recruiters as possible. There are not a lot of couple's positions by comparison to singles, but there also are not a lot of couples coming here.
Another idea, would be for one of you to apply first and get accepted, then the other can follow and find work on the ground. You said your fiance is Korean-American. He should be able to qualify for an F-4 visa then. This is very beneficial to you. First, it gives him a lot of freedom with work. Therefore, if you can't find a couple's position, you can get a singles position, and he can come with you without a job. Then find one near by once you get here.
I'm not sure if the spouse of an F-4 visa holder is eligible for an F-2 visa. That would be great for you, because it would give you the same freedom in finding work. Something you should definitely look into.
GEPIK/EPIK have also been known to place couples in the same town. So they are worth a shot as well.
One of you can get an apartment and the other can collect the housing allowance from your employer. More money in the bank! |
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nikki15
Joined: 02 Jun 2010
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:47 am Post subject: |
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My husband and I got married before we came to Korea too. We actually only went through one recruiter, and had to two jobs we could choose between. I think it is a little more difficult to find a couple job, but I see postings for them...I am no expert though. I doubt you will have any problems. But, I would apply though many recruiters like the previous poster said so that you have more options.
We also have a very big two bedroom apartment that was provided by our Hagwon  |
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GreyRabbit
Joined: 29 Jan 2011 Location: Wandering...
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks!!
And if I were to get pregnant whilst there, would I be likely to get the boot or something similar, even though I was married? |
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jrwhite82

Joined: 22 May 2010
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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I think you'd have better luck with a public school if you plan on getting pregnant. GEPIK provides 2 months paid maternity leave and one month unpaid in their contracts. Whereas hagwon contracts don't provide this, and usually have a clause saying if you miss over 3 days of work they can fire you.
But I honestly don't know any women who have gotten the GEPIK maternity leave. And I also don't know any E2 visa holders that got pregnant while here and stayed through their pregnancy. So my knowledge is based on the same things you have read probably. But I do know the differences between the contracts.
If your plan is to get pregnant here, you definitely want to look into what kind of medical services are available to you. They do things a little differently here.
Furthermore, if you do lose your job (and therefore E2 visa) you can switch to a dependent visa that is connected to your husband's E2/F4...I think.
Edit: I forgot to mention, if you are applying for a couple's position, expect all kinds of personal questions about your plans to have children. Your best bet is to probably not tell them you plan on having children after you arrive. |
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emmahearst
Joined: 10 Jan 2011
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah but if both of you find jobs, it's like a dream come true. Nothing is easy.
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My husband and I got married before we came to Korea too. We actually only went through one recruiter, and had to two jobs we could choose between. I think it is a little more difficult to find a couple job, but I see postings for them...I am no expert though. I doubt you will have any problems. But, I would apply though many recruiters like the previous poster said so that you have more options.
We also have a very big two bedroom apartment that was provided by our Hagwon  |
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willteachforfood
Joined: 24 Jan 2011
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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There are plenty of couples working here and plenty of couple jobs.
We even were offered jobs at 6 different universities to work as a couple.....only one of the schools we applied to had a no-couple policy. Of course this was after we were already in Korea, you'll have to start at a public school or hagwon when coming from overseas. |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Home sweet home
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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I'm married, but support my hubsnad since he studies. If you want to work int he SAME school, it might be hard. But it should be pretty easy to find work in the same town.
For housing, your work might get you a bigger place or you could ask both your schools for housing allowances. Just keep in mind you'll have to come up with key money.
SOME schools might offer bigger houses to married couples. I have a few friends, wife works, husband stays at home, that get bigger housing. |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Home sweet home
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Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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jrwhite82 wrote: |
I'm not sure if the spouse of an F-4 visa holder is eligible for an F-2 visa. That would be great for you, because it would give you the same freedom in finding work. Something you should definitely look into. ! |
Nope, they're not. BUT, an alternative would be for him to get an E2 and then get an F2 via the point system and then his spouse could also get an F2.
GreyRabbit wrote: |
And if I were to get pregnant whilst there, would I be likely to get the boot or something similar, even though I was married? |
Really depends. Some people have been let go, others have been allowed to work. There's an expat forum for those with kids, http://expatparents.50.forumer.com
I've been told that I wouldn't lose my job, but if I didn't get renewed I wouldn't say that I'd be completely surprised either
jrwhite82 wrote: |
I think you'd have better luck with a public school if you plan on getting pregnant. GEPIK provides 2 months paid maternity leave and one month unpaid in their contracts. Whereas hagwon contracts don't provide this, and usually have a clause saying if you miss over 3 days of work they can fire you.
But I honestly don't know any women who have gotten the GEPIK maternity leave. And I also don't know any E2 visa holders that got pregnant while here and stayed through their pregnancy. So my knowledge is based on the same things you have read probably. B
Furthermore, if you do lose your job (and therefore E2 visa) you can switch to a dependent visa that is connected to your husband's E2/F4...I think. |
F3 is dependent and pretty easy to get. Bring your marriage cert, you'll need it. It took my husband 10 days to get his F3. Pretty straightforward.
I will say that A LOT of foreigners , when both are foreigners, end up leaving Korea during pregnancy or shortly after. It's just much harder in a country where you don't speak the language or have family. In the OP's case, things might be different, but I suggest you really look into the F2 points for your husband. If he speaks Korean, then that woudl probably be better to get. Stay on an E2 for a year, then have him switch to the F2 and you'd get the F2 as well.
Whatever you do, try not to get pregnant on your first year's contract  |
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GreyRabbit
Joined: 29 Jan 2011 Location: Wandering...
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks so much for the advice! Yea, I'm not planning on getting pregnant while there, but I just wanna be prepared as much as possible, just in case it does happen =) |
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willteachforfood
Joined: 24 Jan 2011
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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GreyRabbit wrote: |
Thanks so much for the advice! Yea, I'm not planning on getting pregnant while there, but I just wanna be prepared as much as possible, just in case it does happen =) |
New vasectomy technology means that the procedure is done in less than 8 minutes, with almost no pain whatsoever.
A $600 investment that saves you hundreds of thousands over the course of your lifetime. |
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naturegirl321

Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Home sweet home
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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willteachforfood wrote: |
GreyRabbit wrote: |
Thanks so much for the advice! Yea, I'm not planning on getting pregnant while there, but I just wanna be prepared as much as possible, just in case it does happen =) |
New vasectomy technology means that the procedure is done in less than 8 minutes, with almost no pain whatsoever.
A $600 investment that saves you hundreds of thousands over the course of your lifetime. |
Right, but the guy has to be willing to undergo the treatment. |
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loubird
Joined: 27 May 2010
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Hello, I am currently pregnant, working at a public school through GEPIK, and married to a Korean-American man. I told my school this week (that is I told my co-teacher, who will tell the vice principal when the time is right). I also asked a GEPIK coordinator if I really am entitled to maternity leave, and she assured me that I was.
Everything will be fine for you if you do happen to get pregnant over here as long as you have a good relationship with your school and aren't incompetent. In fact, having a baby over here is actually much less expensive than having a baby in the U.S., and the government will even offer you a debit card just to help cover the (truly minimal) costs.
My husband did not get an F4, as we could not get all of the required paperwor, and we were afriad that if he was in the Korean family registry he might be made to serve in the army (the consulate warned us it was possible). We both have E2 visas and live together in an officetel (small apt) that is provided by my school. His school gives him a housing allowance, so that's a nice bonus too. Feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions. |
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GreyRabbit
Joined: 29 Jan 2011 Location: Wandering...
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:34 am Post subject: |
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willteachforfood wrote: |
GreyRabbit wrote: |
Thanks so much for the advice! Yea, I'm not planning on getting pregnant while there, but I just wanna be prepared as much as possible, just in case it does happen =) |
New vasectomy technology means that the procedure is done in less than 8 minutes, with almost no pain whatsoever.
A $600 investment that saves you hundreds of thousands over the course of your lifetime. |
No thanks. I would never want that for him or us. =) |
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GreyRabbit
Joined: 29 Jan 2011 Location: Wandering...
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:39 am Post subject: |
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loubird wrote: |
Hello, I am currently pregnant, working at a public school through GEPIK, and married to a Korean-American man. I told my school this week (that is I told my co-teacher, who will tell the vice principal when the time is right). I also asked a GEPIK coordinator if I really am entitled to maternity leave, and she assured me that I was.
Everything will be fine for you if you do happen to get pregnant over here as long as you have a good relationship with your school and aren't incompetent. In fact, having a baby over here is actually much less expensive than having a baby in the U.S., and the government will even offer you a debit card just to help cover the (truly minimal) costs.
My husband did not get an F4, as we could not get all of the required paperwor, and we were afriad that if he was in the Korean family registry he might be made to serve in the army (the consulate warned us it was possible). We both have E2 visas and live together in an officetel (small apt) that is provided by my school. His school gives him a housing allowance, so that's a nice bonus too. Feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions. |
Thank you for sharing; I'd like to PM and tried to, but apparently I'm not yet qualified to do so. Perhaps when I am able, I'll be able to then, if that's all right. Thanks again =) |
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