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mattdemers
Joined: 03 Sep 2010
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Does a person have to meet all of these or is just one enough?
I don't even know why I ask, I fail on both accounts, but maybe it'll help someone else. |
I thought Patrick Bateman had great hygiene. What a disappointment. If a guy is going to commit murder, the least he can do is exfoliate. |
Maybe back in the 80's this was so, but in the 90's I lost all of my money in the dotcom bust and I had to move in with my brother Sean at Camden. Now there is only an idea of Patrick Bateman. |
Have you read the book? It's quite gruesome. Probably the most vile literature I've ever read. Still a pretty good book though. |
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cheolsu
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| I've been in Korea for a little over two years, as high on life as I was in Toronto. I haven't been to Imun-dong in a while, since the summer, but there's lots of nice stuff by HUFS. I remember a few coffee shops I like, a good Mexican, Japanese and Korean-style fried chicken places that I like. |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:53 am Post subject: |
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Plan to be around millions of people (some lacking hygiene) in smoky congested pedestrianized places, but not really ever know anyone on a personal level. I'm social and fun, but didn't find friends to hang out with so I spent a year alone, don't care what others look like, and only care about their actions. Me and the Irish man living on the next floor up never visited once, but we said hi while passing each other one time despite being about the same age. I seen he's also leaving in 10 days by his Facebook posts and experienced life here all alone as well. Our Facebook pages are dead, but I tried to meet others, but they distanced themselves and seemed bored, sad, and unimpressed with everything. During my trips it was super easy to meet and hang out with fun people, but the scene isn't like that so much in Korea. The key is to try to meet Koreans who like to do what you want to do with others be it bass fishing, swimming, working out, and eating out.
I think you can hang out to party with other teachers if you are in your 20's by just showing up at bars and marts with tables and chairs like some Family Marts. If you are obviously a bit older in your 30's or 40's, then they tend to ignore you as I found and you wouldn't really normally be interested in a college student style of group anyhow in that case. In Seoul there are many clubs and organized groups to do other things like hiking, cycling, sports, and other activities, but nothing more than Korean classes outside of Seoul for foreigners to meet and socialize except small Western style bars. |
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chungbukdo
Joined: 22 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:38 am Post subject: |
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| mattdemers wrote: |
| Patrick Bateman wrote: |
Does a person have to meet all of these or is just one enough?
I don't even know why I ask, I fail on both accounts, but maybe it'll help someone else. |
I thought Patrick Bateman had great hygiene. What a disappointment. If a guy is going to commit murder, the least he can do is exfoliate. |
Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you, uh, dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your a**hole. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite. |
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mattdemers
Joined: 03 Sep 2010
Location: CANADA
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Plan to be around millions of people (some lacking hygiene) in smoky congested pedestrianized places, but not really ever know anyone on a personal level. I'm social and fun, but didn't find friends to hang out with so I spent a year alone, don't care what others look like, and only care about their actions. Me and the Irish man living on the next floor up never visited once, but we said hi while passing each other one time despite being about the same age. I seen he's also leaving in 10 days by his Facebook posts and experienced life here all alone as well. Our Facebook pages are dead, but I tried to meet others, but they distanced themselves and seemed bored, sad, and unimpressed with everything. During my trips it was super easy to meet and hang out with fun people, but the scene isn't like that so much in Korea. The key is to try to meet Koreans who like to do what you want to do with others be it bass fishing, swimming, working out, and eating out.
I think you can hang out to party with other teachers if you are in your 20's by just showing up at bars and marts with tables and chairs like some Family Marts. If you are obviously a bit older in your 30's or 40's, then they tend to ignore you as I found and you wouldn't really normally be interested in a college student style of group anyhow in that case. In Seoul there are many clubs and organized groups to do other things like hiking, cycling, sports, and other activities, but nothing more than Korean classes outside of Seoul for foreigners to meet and socialize except small Western style bars. |
That's kind of a depressing story. Sorry it was tough for you. Since I am teaching adult Koreans, I am hoping it'll be easier to network out... So you have this Irish guy on your friends list on Facebook but still never talked to him? ... Maybe move to Thailand. You'll get drunk off friendliness there (or so I found). |
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Vagabundo
Joined: 26 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Plan to be around millions of people (some lacking hygiene) in smoky congested pedestrianized places, but not really ever know anyone on a personal level. I'm social and fun, but didn't find friends to hang out with so I spent a year alone, don't care what others look like, and only care about their actions. Me and the Irish man living on the next floor up never visited once, but we said hi while passing each other one time despite being about the same age. I seen he's also leaving in 10 days by his Facebook posts and experienced life here all alone as well. Our Facebook pages are dead, but I tried to meet others, but they distanced themselves and seemed bored, sad, and unimpressed with everything. During my trips it was super easy to meet and hang out with fun people, but the scene isn't like that so much in Korea. The key is to try to meet Koreans who like to do what you want to do with others be it bass fishing, swimming, working out, and eating out.
I think you can hang out to party with other teachers if you are in your 20's by just showing up at bars and marts with tables and chairs like some Family Marts. If you are obviously a bit older in your 30's or 40's, then they tend to ignore you as I found and you wouldn't really normally be interested in a college student style of group anyhow in that case. In Seoul there are many clubs and organized groups to do other things like hiking, cycling, sports, and other activities, but nothing more than Korean classes outside of Seoul for foreigners to meet and socialize except small Western style bars. |
That's kind of a depressing story. Sorry it was tough for you. Since I am teaching adult Koreans, I am hoping it'll be easier to network out... So you have this Irish guy on your friends list on Facebook but still never talked to him? ... Maybe move to Thailand. You'll get drunk off friendliness there (or so I found). |
working as English teachers in BKK at say 30K baht, they sure won't be able to afford any real drinks, so getting drunk "off friendliness" is about the only drinking they'll be able to afford.
(among each othat that is, since they won't be able to afford any women either, of shady or pristine reputation) |
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mattdemers
Joined: 03 Sep 2010
Location: CANADA
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Vagabundo wrote: |
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| AsiaESLbound wrote: |
Plan to be around millions of people (some lacking hygiene) in smoky congested pedestrianized places, but not really ever know anyone on a personal level. I'm social and fun, but didn't find friends to hang out with so I spent a year alone, don't care what others look like, and only care about their actions. Me and the Irish man living on the next floor up never visited once, but we said hi while passing each other one time despite being about the same age. I seen he's also leaving in 10 days by his Facebook posts and experienced life here all alone as well. Our Facebook pages are dead, but I tried to meet others, but they distanced themselves and seemed bored, sad, and unimpressed with everything. During my trips it was super easy to meet and hang out with fun people, but the scene isn't like that so much in Korea. The key is to try to meet Koreans who like to do what you want to do with others be it bass fishing, swimming, working out, and eating out.
I think you can hang out to party with other teachers if you are in your 20's by just showing up at bars and marts with tables and chairs like some Family Marts. If you are obviously a bit older in your 30's or 40's, then they tend to ignore you as I found and you wouldn't really normally be interested in a college student style of group anyhow in that case. In Seoul there are many clubs and organized groups to do other things like hiking, cycling, sports, and other activities, but nothing more than Korean classes outside of Seoul for foreigners to meet and socialize except small Western style bars. |
That's kind of a depressing story. Sorry it was tough for you. Since I am teaching adult Koreans, I am hoping it'll be easier to network out... So you have this Irish guy on your friends list on Facebook but still never talked to him? ... Maybe move to Thailand. You'll get drunk off friendliness there (or so I found). |
working as English teachers in BKK at say 30K baht, they sure won't be able to afford any real drinks, so getting drunk "off friendliness" is about the only drinking they'll be able to afford.
(among each othat that is, since they won't be able to afford any women either, of shady or pristine reputation) |
Not a place to pay off debt that's for sure. I am beginning to see that accommodation is being offered for free according to the offers I've seen around this site. The quality of these places are probably subpar however. |
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mattdemers
Joined: 03 Sep 2010
Location: CANADA
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Vagabundo wrote: |
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Plan to be around millions of people (some lacking hygiene) in smoky congested pedestrianized places, but not really ever know anyone on a personal level. I'm social and fun, but didn't find friends to hang out with so I spent a year alone, don't care what others look like, and only care about their actions. Me and the Irish man living on the next floor up never visited once, but we said hi while passing each other one time despite being about the same age. I seen he's also leaving in 10 days by his Facebook posts and experienced life here all alone as well. Our Facebook pages are dead, but I tried to meet others, but they distanced themselves and seemed bored, sad, and unimpressed with everything. During my trips it was super easy to meet and hang out with fun people, but the scene isn't like that so much in Korea. The key is to try to meet Koreans who like to do what you want to do with others be it bass fishing, swimming, working out, and eating out.
I think you can hang out to party with other teachers if you are in your 20's by just showing up at bars and marts with tables and chairs like some Family Marts. If you are obviously a bit older in your 30's or 40's, then they tend to ignore you as I found and you wouldn't really normally be interested in a college student style of group anyhow in that case. In Seoul there are many clubs and organized groups to do other things like hiking, cycling, sports, and other activities, but nothing more than Korean classes outside of Seoul for foreigners to meet and socialize except small Western style bars. |
That's kind of a depressing story. Sorry it was tough for you. Since I am teaching adult Koreans, I am hoping it'll be easier to network out... So you have this Irish guy on your friends list on Facebook but still never talked to him? ... Maybe move to Thailand. You'll get drunk off friendliness there (or so I found). |
working as English teachers in BKK at say 30K baht, they sure won't be able to afford any real drinks, so getting drunk "off friendliness" is about the only drinking they'll be able to afford.
(among each othat that is, since they won't be able to afford any women either, of shady or pristine reputation) |
I never paid a dime for the company of women in Thailand, and they were very nice looking girls to boot. Come to think of it, I didn't buy one drink!! I'm no Romeo either... Thailand is not a place to pay off debt that's for sure. I am beginning to see that accommodation is being offered for free according to the offers I've seen around this site. So maybe Thais I realizing that they need to offer something worthwhile to get some quality teachers into the classroom. |
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Vagabundo
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well, Club Narcissus (aka Club Narz) is a very nice club off Soi 23.
No entry fee.
but any drink in any reasonable club venue in BKK will cost you around 200 baht.
they're offering free appts? that's interesting. Wonder where re location (probably way down on lower Sukhumvit) meaning a potentially long commute) and whether they offer air con or Thai style fan only. |
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mattdemers
Joined: 03 Sep 2010
Location: CANADA
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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well, Club Narcissus (aka Club Narz) is a very nice club off Soi 23.
No entry fee.
but any drink in any reasonable club venue in BKK will cost you around 200 baht.
they're offering free appts? that's interesting. Wonder where re location (probably way down on lower Sukhumvit) meaning a potentially long commute) and whether they offer air con or Thai style fan only. |
yeah, it's probably not prime real estate |
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Patrick Bateman
Joined: 21 Apr 2009
Location: Lost in Translation
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| mattdemers wrote: |
| Patrick Bateman wrote: |
| mattdemers wrote: |
| Patrick Bateman wrote: |
Does a person have to meet all of these or is just one enough?
I don't even know why I ask, I fail on both accounts, but maybe it'll help someone else. |
I thought Patrick Bateman had great hygiene. What a disappointment. If a guy is going to commit murder, the least he can do is exfoliate. |
Maybe back in the 80's this was so, but in the 90's I lost all of my money in the dotcom bust and I had to move in with my brother Sean at Camden. Now there is only an idea of Patrick Bateman. |
Have you read the book? It's quite gruesome. Probably the most vile literature I've ever read. Still a pretty good book though . |
Yeah, around the time of senior year in high school I read all of Bret Easton Ellis�s books. It�s pretty good stuff if you�re able to keep in mind what he�s trying to do, but American Psycho is definitely one of the most gruesome books I�ve ever read. My literary tastes have moved away from Ellis, but still, PB is such an interesting character.
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Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you, uh, dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your a**hole. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite. |
Don't touch the Rolex. |
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tefain
Joined: 19 Sep 2007
Location: Not too far out there
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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Plan to be around millions of people (some lacking hygiene) in smoky congested pedestrianized places, but not really ever know anyone on a personal level. I'm social and fun, but didn't find friends to hang out with so I spent a year alone, don't care what others look like, and only care about their actions. Me and the Irish man living on the next floor up never visited once, but we said hi while passing each other one time despite being about the same age. I seen he's also leaving in 10 days by his Facebook posts and experienced life here all alone as well. Our Facebook pages are dead, but I tried to meet others, but they distanced themselves and seemed bored, sad, and unimpressed with everything. During my trips it was super easy to meet and hang out with fun people, but the scene isn't like that so much in Korea. The key is to try to meet Koreans who like to do what you want to do with others be it bass fishing, swimming, working out, and eating out.
I think you can hang out to party with other teachers if you are in your 20's by just showing up at bars and marts with tables and chairs like some Family Marts. If you are obviously a bit older in your 30's or 40's, then they tend to ignore you as I found and you wouldn't really normally be interested in a college student style of group anyhow in that case. In Seoul there are many clubs and organized groups to do other things like hiking, cycling, sports, and other activities, but nothing more than Korean classes outside of Seoul for foreigners to meet and socialize except small Western style bars. |
That's kind of a depressing story. Sorry it was tough for you. Since I am teaching adult Koreans, I am hoping it'll be easier to network out... So you have this Irish guy on your friends list on Facebook but still never talked to him? |
Yeah really. If you're social and fun, why didn't you invite the guy out for a beer or dinner? Oh well, no need in worrying about it now.
It is true that it helps to meet Koreans who have shared interests. But you can also meet plenty of foreigners as well. And there are much more opportunities than Korean classes and bars outside of Seoul to meet people.
Sure, there's more in Seoul, but any of the larger cities will have things. If you're in a small town with hardly any foreigners, then that will be a problem.
Otherwise, there's more than enough here to keep you occupied.  |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Plan to be around millions of people (some lacking hygiene) in smoky congested pedestrianized places, but not really ever know anyone on a personal level. I'm social and fun, but didn't find friends to hang out with so I spent a year alone, don't care what others look like, and only care about their actions. Me and the Irish man living on the next floor up never visited once, but we said hi while passing each other one time despite being about the same age. I seen he's also leaving in 10 days by his Facebook posts and experienced life here all alone as well. Our Facebook pages are dead, but I tried to meet others, but they distanced themselves and seemed bored, sad, and unimpressed with everything. During my trips it was super easy to meet and hang out with fun people, but the scene isn't like that so much in Korea. The key is to try to meet Koreans who like to do what you want to do with others be it bass fishing, swimming, working out, and eating out.
I think you can hang out to party with other teachers if you are in your 20's by just showing up at bars and marts with tables and chairs like some Family Marts. If you are obviously a bit older in your 30's or 40's, then they tend to ignore you as I found and you wouldn't really normally be interested in a college student style of group anyhow in that case. In Seoul there are many clubs and organized groups to do other things like hiking, cycling, sports, and other activities, but nothing more than Korean classes outside of Seoul for foreigners to meet and socialize except small Western style bars. |
That's kind of a depressing story. Sorry it was tough for you. Since I am teaching adult Koreans, I am hoping it'll be easier to network out... So you have this Irish guy on your friends list on Facebook but still never talked to him? |
Yeah really. If you're social and fun, why didn't you invite the guy out for a beer or dinner? Oh well, no need in worrying about it now.
It is true that it helps to meet Koreans who have shared interests. But you can also meet plenty of foreigners as well. And there are much more opportunities than Korean classes and bars outside of Seoul to meet people.
Sure, there's more in Seoul, but any of the larger cities will have things. If you're in a small town with hardly any foreigners, then that will be a problem.
Otherwise, there's more than enough here to keep you occupied. |
I invited many out to dinner and exchanged phone numbers with around 20 people I met at various times in my local Paris Baguette, Holly's, bus terminal, and on the streets, but nothing ever came of them. I had one good friend I hung out, but he left midway during my time here. I found out in my small city we have around 100 hagwon teachers and 27 public school teachers at any given time so it helps to get on the 2pm to 9 or 10pm schedule to connect with others. I didn't do the go out for a beer thing since no one was at the bar from 5pm to 8pm when I would do an after work sitting since they don't come out until 10pm which is when I'm turning in. To be really social, you'd go teach in a hagwon working with other foreign teachers on the late shift. |
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