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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:17 am    Post subject: Hookers change, get wired; johns squeezed Reply with quote

How Tech Tools Transformed New York's Sex Trade

* By Sudhir Venkatesh Email Author
* January 31, 2011 |
* 12:00 pm |
* Wired February 2011


What is it like to be a prostitute? The answer depends on whether you work out of a client�s car or a $500-a-night hotel room. In 1999, I set out to study the effects of efforts to bring the suburban middle class back to New York City. The gentrification of Times Square made for a unique social experiment: What happens to sex workers when they are pushed off the streets and into the outer boroughs? I had little idea at the time that I�d be documenting the rise of an entirely new, upper-end �indoor� market, in which streetwalkers have given way to a professional class.

The economies of big cities have been reshaped by a demand for high-end entertainment, cuisine, and �wellness� goods. In the process, �dating,� �massage,� �escort,� and �dancing� have replaced hustling and streetwalking. A luxury brand has been born.

These changes have made sex for hire more expensive. But luxe pricing has in turn helped make prostitution, well� somewhat respectable. Whereas men once looked for a secretive tryst, now they seek a mistress with no strings attached, a �girlfriend experience,� and they are willing to pay top dollar for it.

more and a bunch of charts and graphics at link, like...

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FREAKONOMICS

    What sex workers charge (and keep) for traditional intercourse:

    # Streetwalker Charges an average of $75, but her pimp gets a 25 percent cut (30 percent on weekends).

    # Self-employed $150, and she keeps it all, but she has to pay for online marketing, transportation, security, bribes to shopkeepers, and drugs for clients.

    # �Blue-collar� agency The agency charges $350 on average, and the sex worker gets 60 percent of that. The agency pays for advertising and on-call security officers. The client covers the hotel room and drinks.

    # Upscale agency The agency and sex worker are paid separately�if one gets the standard $2,000, the other gets the same. The client covers expenses.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It isn't that difficult to find someone who will consent to having sex. Men who hire prostitutes want to be in control. They want to have a woman who must do whatever they say. Women who have other valid choices do not become prostitutes.

"Upscale" or not, it's still the same old thing.
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Kepler



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She has used the internet to market herself and make $500 an hour as a high end escort. If she could only earn $100 an hour it wouldn't be worth it and she would have continued working as a computer programmer:

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"She is a very bright woman. She understands the economics pretty well," said Dubner. "She said, 'Thank God prostitution is illegal,' 'cause if it weren't, I wouldn't be making $500 an hour; I'd be offered maybe $100 an hour, and I wouldn't be a prostitute. I would probably be back doing what I was doing -- which was working as a computer technician for a Fortune 50 company.'"

But Allie had ambitions of working for a different Fortune-listed company -- her own. Adapting business concepts of low overhead, market value and the technological expansiveness of the Internet, she used her bedroom as an office and took a high-heeled first step into the world of high-end escorts.

"I originally thought it would be thrilling to try once," Allie told ABC News in an interview. And it wasn't. It wasn't as glamorous as I thought. But it wasn't awful. And the guy was very nice. I walked away from it thinking, "That wasn't so bad. It was probably better than a lot of my online dating situations and now I have a car payment paid."

For Allie, it was a case of simple mathematics.

"It just became really hard to sit at a computer and program for 40, 50, 60 hours a week for the exact same amount of money I would get going to the Four Seasons for three hours and have a bottle of champagne and, you know, in the company of a gentleman," said Allie.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/superfreakonomics-prostitutions-perks/story?id=8844755&page=2
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Illysook wrote:
It isn't that difficult to find someone who will consent to having sex.

I guess you've never been an adolescent boy. Razz
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iRock



Joined: 08 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Space Bar wrote:
Illysook wrote:
It isn't that difficult to find someone who will consent to having sex.

I guess you've never been an adolescent boy. Razz


I bet adolescent boys never had that problem around you Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There will always be women (regardless of culture, race, and socio-economic status) who prefer to earn their money by providing sex rather than picking crops, waitressing, computer programming and even getting married.
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Location: Daegu, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

iRock wrote:
Space Bar wrote:
Illysook wrote:
It isn't that difficult to find someone who will consent to having sex.

I guess you've never been an adolescent boy. Razz


I bet adolescent boys never had that problem around you Twisted Evil



+100.....hAHAHAHA
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nw25th



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Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

$225 for an HJ? Who in the hell even wants a handjob?!?!
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Space Bar



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hondaicivic wrote:
iRock wrote:
Space Bar wrote:
Illysook wrote:
It isn't that difficult to find someone who will consent to having sex.

I guess you've never been an adolescent boy. Razz


I bet adolescent boys never had that problem around you Twisted Evil



+100.....hAHAHAHA

Yeah, that was pretty good. Smile It's a tough job, but someone's gotta do it. Mr. Green

nw25th wrote:
$225 for an HJ? Who in the hell even wants a handjob?!?!

Especially at $45/finger!

Maybe a rich religious guy who does not believe that it counts as sex so he can still be faithful to his wife?
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catman



Joined: 18 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Illysook wrote:
It isn't that difficult to find someone who will consent to having sex. Men who hire prostitutes want to be in control. They want to have a woman who must do whatever they say.


Some do no doubt. Most just want to have sex with an attractive woman. That is all.


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Women who have other valid choices do not become prostitutes.



I've heard the same thing about teaching ESL. Twisted Evil
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