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naturegirl321



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Home sweet home

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:14 pm    Post subject: From Korea to the Middle East Reply with quote

I've tried doing a search for the past two days and it's not working Sad

My question is, has anyone gone from teaching in Korea to the Middle East? HOw did they compare?
Are there any things you knew beforehand?
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Radius



Joined: 20 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My God, with all of the uprisings going on in several countries over there now, why would you ever consider the Middle East? And you're a woman? Don't be mad at me, I know you're an adult, I'm just looking out for ya.
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hwarangi



Joined: 17 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have any specific information, but I'm replying because I'm interested in this topic, too.

I'm planning on going to the ME in 2012.

From what Ive heard (I know someone who made the move; and read a few posts on another msg board (which I cant find now)), it offers a much better quality of life for people, especially if you have a family.
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Konglishman



Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes, I think that Qatar would be an interesting place to work. On a per capita basis, it is the second richest country in the world. And unlike some of the other countries in the middle east, it has a government which is already at work on turning itself into democracy. This was the king's idea actually. In fact, the king gives most of the funding to Al Jazeera (which has gone out of its way to give extensive news coverage in support of the protests in Tunisia, Egypt and elsewhere).

Further, the king's second wife (I think he has two wives... maybe more) has been very instrumental in promoting women's rights and education. Finally, for any Americans reading this, after Katrina came and devastated the gulf coast, the king gave a lot of money to New Orleans residents to have their homes rebuilt.

Of course, like any other country, Qatar does have its dark side. There are sponsorship laws there along with other difficulties that make life less pleasant for foreign workers. However, I understand that for more professional jobs such as university positions, this is much less of an issue.
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Sergio Stefanuto



Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK

PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Discussed here: http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=198046&start=0
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oldtrafford



Joined: 12 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The m.e is much better than korea in terms of work. You do however need good qualifications, a ba in woodwork will not suffice.
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naturegirl321



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radius wrote:
My God, with all of the uprisings going on in several countries over there now, why would you ever consider the Middle East? And you're a woman? Don't be mad at me, I know you're an adult, I'm just looking out for ya.


I'm a MARRIED woman Smile And it's precisely BECAUSE Of the uprising that I'd be going over. You'd have your pick of jobs.

Got a BA and two MAs, but done by distance, the MAs. Five years uni experience NOW, and would have more when I went in a couple years. 8 years teahcing exp total, multiple publications and a handful of presentations.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Konglishman wrote:
Sometimes, I think that Qatar would be an interesting place to work. On a per capita basis, it is the second richest country in the world. And unlike some of the other countries in the middle east, it has a government which is already at work on turning itself into democracy.

I think I'm limited to Saudi and UAE due to the fact that my husband would be on my visa, which kind of stinks.

Sergio Stefanuto wrote:
Discussed here: http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=198046&start=0


Thank you thank yoU!
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tealeeds1



Joined: 08 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i applied for a position in Jeddah in saudi, I taught alot of the students at the school at a camp in the UK and got on very well with their supervisors, who were the Head of English and Head of Development at the school in Jeddah.

The deal they were offering was �24,000 basic, overtime paid at double rates. They also said unofficial tutoring was permitted if it didnt interfere with school teahcing, and that it paid upwards of �50 an hour. If I stayed a second year, they would sponsor me to do a DELTA.

Accomodation wise, it was a two bedroom apartment in a private compund with free access to swimming pool, gym, and so on. the school would pay for a driver to take me to school and back each day.

As it was, there were visa issues with the school (each school allegedly has limit to the number of new foreign visas they can apply for a year, they used their limit) and so I didnt get it, however I maintain contact with the staff members. I hold hope for getting the job another year. It might be like living in a 5 star prison, but for one year, for that money, itd be worth it.

An incredibley good deal. I don't know if all jobs in Saudi offer this, the school I was applying to was a private school whose students all had blackberrys, private drivers, and so on.
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Sergio Stefanuto



Joined: 14 May 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tealeeds1 wrote:
It might be like living in a 5 star prison


There's no reason why you shouldn't be able to leave the compound, for example to go to the store or just take a walk or for any reason you see fit. I'm sure some companies do forbid their staff from leaving, but it's very unnecessary if so.

I would have no reservations about renting my own place in the center of town. It's perfectly safe. Saudi Arabia's low rates of homicide put other supposedly more civilized countries to shame.
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cyui



Joined: 10 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We had this discussion earlier. Nature Girl- Aren't you an American Citizen?

Think you can forget it unless you an some-how obtain a British Passport..

Are Irish passports' considered British?
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyui wrote:
We had this discussion earlier. Nature Girl- Aren't you an American Citizen?

Think you can forget it unless you an some-how obtain a British Passport..

Are Irish passports' considered British?


Why would having a British passport have anything to do with getting a job in the MEast?
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cyui



Joined: 10 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IDK just figured they would ask for UK before other nationalities for EU Visa.

Would this be a wrong assumption?
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cyui wrote:
IDK just figured they would ask for UK before other nationalities for EU Visa.

Would this be a wrong assumption?


An EU visa? Is there such a thing? And once again, what would it have to do with getting a job in the Middle East?
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Caffeinated



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been considering this myself but I got a year to get through first.

Some job postings for the ME definitely state preferences for certain countries.
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