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daisydew



Joined: 07 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:31 pm    Post subject: I want a job with LOTS of vacation Reply with quote

I just got to Seoul a couple of days ago and am staying with my aunt (i'm a halfie) on an F4 visa. Before I left I had scoured this website looking for jobs with the best vacation but had a hard time finding good ones in Seoul with decent areas (preferably gangnam, I know i'm getting picky). Any suggestions? I would like to find a job within the next 2 weeks or so if possible.

Also, do u get to choose your vacation times? Because that would be ideal. I have a friend's wedding I want to attend in the beginning of July. Or do most of the schools have a similar calendar that they use for vacation? Less working hours is a bonus too, i don't care if i get paid a tiny bit less.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does LOTS of vacation time really mean?

Are you qualified to teach uni?


If not.. teach private classes.
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Big Mac



Joined: 17 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most hogwans give you 10 days of paid vacation each year. That's in addition to national holidays. You don't usually get to choose your time.

If lots of vacation time and low working hours are your only concerns, then perhaps you should be thinking about whether this is the right work for you. If I was an employer and a potential employee made it clear that these were their only concerns I would not want to hire them.
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dyc



Joined: 16 Dec 2010
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: I want a job with LOTS of vacation Reply with quote

daisydew wrote:
I just got to Seoul a couple of days ago and am staying with my aunt (i'm a halfie) on an F4 visa. Before I left I had scoured this website looking for jobs with the best vacation but had a hard time finding good ones in Seoul with decent areas (preferably gangnam, I know i'm getting picky). Any suggestions? I would like to find a job within the next 2 weeks or so if possible.

Also, do u get to choose your vacation times? Because that would be ideal. I have a friend's wedding I want to attend in the beginning of July. Or do most of the schools have a similar calendar that they use for vacation? Less working hours is a bonus too, i don't care if i get paid a tiny bit less.


Being unemployed = vacation
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Radius



Joined: 20 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: I want a job with LOTS of vacation Reply with quote

daisydew wrote:
I just got to Seoul a couple of days ago and am staying with my aunt (i'm a halfie) on an F4 visa. Before I left I had scoured this website looking for jobs with the best vacation but had a hard time finding good ones in Seoul with decent areas (preferably gangnam, I know i'm getting picky). Any suggestions? I would like to find a job within the next 2 weeks or so if possible.

Also, do u get to choose your vacation times? Because that would be ideal. I have a friend's wedding I want to attend in the beginning of July. Or do most of the schools have a similar calendar that they use for vacation? Less working hours is a bonus too, i don't care if i get paid a tiny bit less.


You sound like a slacker. Perfect fit for Korea.
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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could always do privates with an F-4. Make up your own schedule.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm not telling you where i work. Razz
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Mac wrote:
If I was an employer and a potential employee made it clear that these were their only concerns I would not want to hire them.

Yep. Any time I've been asked to do the interviews for my company, those types of people had their interviews cut short and their resumes put in the circular file immediately.

My company didn't want someone at work who was more concerned about not being there.
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marsavalanche



Joined: 27 Aug 2010
Location: where pretty lies perish

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread is hilarious. You're in for a huge wake up call. Please OP, do keep us posted when you land that job with 6 weeks vacation, 3 of which you get to schedule when you want--letting the hagwon know ahead of time optional.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

try WONDERLAND. Razz
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:30 pm    Post subject: Re: I want a job with LOTS of vacation Reply with quote

daisydew wrote:
I just got to Seoul a couple of days ago and am staying with my aunt (i'm a halfie) on an F4 visa. Before I left I had scoured this website looking for jobs with the best vacation but had a hard time finding good ones in Seoul with decent areas (preferably gangnam, I know i'm getting picky). Any suggestions? I would like to find a job within the next 2 weeks or so if possible.

Also, do u get to choose your vacation times? Because that would be ideal. I have a friend's wedding I want to attend in the beginning of July. Or do most of the schools have a similar calendar that they use for vacation? Less working hours is a bonus too, i don't care if i get paid a tiny bit less.


MEEE TOOOO!!!!!

I would love to have a job with 4 months of paid vacation, full benefits and a great salary.

Opps, I do have one. Cancel that. I think I will just stay put for now.

Newbies don't start at the top of the pile, even with an F4.
You basically have 2 options.
Take a job, work till you want to leave then quit.
Return and find a new job.
The good news is that it is easily do-able on an F4.

The bad news is that you will NOT find a job offering what you want unless you have some serious qualifications (a lot more than a BA and a TESOL cert) and great marketing to bring to the potential employer.

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calicoe



Joined: 23 Dec 2008
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey ttompatz:

Completely trust and respect your posts. Would you mind elaborating a little bit on the definition of "serious qualifications" these days. I am seeing a lot of variation. I am currently at a university, but definitely want to upgrade the next time around, and of course, upgrade my own skills and credentials in the meantime.

I don't mean to hijack, but this may help the OP plan realistically as well. What is the most realistic "heap" I should be aiming for next time around, and what can I do now to get there?

Me:

B.A. in English
master's in another field (from a university "brand" Koreans love)
3 years prior ESL in another country, one of which was university
1 year public school Korea
2 years (at end of contract) university in Korea

Total (at end of contract) 3 years public school/3 year university

My current university is OK as an entry point, but I feel worked to death, and don't get as much vacation benefit. What can I do or should do next to improve my lot? I have an idea, but I value your feedback as well.

Thanks in advance.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It realistically depends on what you want to do and where you want to go.

IF you are tied to Korea then do you want to stay in ESL or change fields?
Do you want to stay teaching at the tertiary level or change?
Are you willing to move into other fields or change countries?

If you want long vacations, good pay, short hours and work at the tertiary level then get your ABD/Ph.D.

If you want decent vacations, decent remuneration package and work at the primary/secondary level teaching get a B.Ed/PGCE/PGDE / DELTA (usually 1 year (3-4 months for a DELTA) post grad).

Learn Korean and leave the ESL field and work on an E7 (specialist) in your chosen field.

I assumed (from the nature of the post) that the OP was seriously under-qualified for work as a teacher and had limited Korean skills so would be unable to move out of the ESL field and into anything else.

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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't help but laugh at some of the people on this board who really believe they deserve to start in a top position. Get real.

It's ok to have a dream, but geez.


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calicoe



Joined: 23 Dec 2008
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
It realistically depends on what you want to do and where you want to go.

IF you are tied to Korea then do you want to stay in ESL or change fields?
Do you want to stay teaching at the tertiary level or change?
Are you willing to move into other fields or change countries?

If you want long vacations, good pay, short hours and work at the tertiary level then get your ABD/Ph.D.

If you want decent vacations, decent remuneration package and work at the primary/secondary level teaching get a B.Ed/PGCE/PGDE / DELTA (usually 1 year (3-4 months for a DELTA) post grad).

Learn Korean and leave the ESL field and work on an E7 (specialist) in your chosen field.

I assumed (from the nature of the post) that the OP was seriously under-qualified for work as a teacher and had limited Korean skills so would be unable to move out of the ESL field and into anything else.

.


I am interested in teaching either secondary or tertiary levels.

I wouldn't mind staying in Korea if I can find a top job, but I am not tethered by a family or marriage.

At this point I am talking about seeking "serious" credentials in the ESL field. I wouldn't mind moving into other fields or changing countries at some point, though (but, I already have very good credentials in another field). Also, I am in my 40s. Although I appear much younger than my years, I still need to think realistically about cost and long term benefit in this field.
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