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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| CentralCali wrote: |
| My public school principal's retirement party was two weeks ago. The entire school staff attended. And nobody caught any grief for not drinking there. I was actually surprised that only about 1/2 of the staff imbibe. The rest of us don't drink. So, yes, it is possible to not succumb and still have a viable career. |
I think it's often industry/company/team dependant. |
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Kaypea
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, public schools aren't bastions of drunkenness (necessarily), so people consider teaching jobs good, for that reason.
At my school dinners, none of the women seem to drink (though I think some do discreetly), but the men are pretty open about it... after a certain point, they come to the women's tables with cider, ready to trade for the untouched soju at our tables. It's kind of cute, but funny and old fashioned. |
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sadguy
Joined: 13 Feb 2011
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| i've worked at two public schools and the majority of the women don't drink. never seen it become a problem. |
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orosee
Joined: 07 Mar 2008
Location: Hannam-dong, Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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No way am I able to drink myself into a coma until I get home at 4am, just to rise 3 hours later and not be in terrible pain for the following 6 hours. I believe that's why my company has a policy of allowing 1 sick day, no questions asked, per month.
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Actually, that no questions asked sick day is for female employees to use on the day they get their periods. |
Eeeew...! You just spoilt something wonderful for me!  |
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Yaya
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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| sadguy wrote: |
| i've worked at two public schools and the majority of the women don't drink. never seen it become a problem. |
Traditionally, women aren't supposed to get drunk in Korea but I've seen this changing quite a bit a la girls' night out and stuff. |
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toby99
Joined: 28 Aug 2009
Location: Dong-Incheon-by-the-sea, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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| At my public school dinners the men drink like it's the last night before prohibition. Women who choose to drink get some perks (fewer extra tasks after class, compliments from the men, etc) but there are also drawbacks in that they are constantly getting hounded on to go out drinking and they garner a slight "bad girl" reputation that isolates them from and causes friction with the non-drinking women. At any rate, the women are never forced to drink beyond the first shot. After that they can switch to cider or water. |
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Yaya wrote: |
| sadguy wrote: |
| i've worked at two public schools and the majority of the women don't drink. never seen it become a problem. |
Traditionally, women aren't supposed to get drunk in Korea but I've seen this changing quite a bit a la girls' night out and stuff. |
The vast majority of the women teachers at my public school drink, except for a few of the staunch christian types. Usually much more than just a shot or two. I was at a dinner last night and it was fun, but I prefer western style drinking where you pour your own drinks and can pace yourself rather than doing shot after shot after each person pours for you. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Yaya wrote: |
| sadguy wrote: |
| i've worked at two public schools and the majority of the women don't drink. never seen it become a problem. |
Traditionally, women aren't supposed to get drunk in Korea but I've seen this changing quite a bit a la girls' night out and stuff. |
You mean traditionally women aren't supposed to get drunk in the site of men. As long as the men don't know about their 'sins' it's okay, it goes both ways. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| Yaya wrote: |
| sadguy wrote: |
| i've worked at two public schools and the majority of the women don't drink. never seen it become a problem. |
Traditionally, women aren't supposed to get drunk in Korea but I've seen this changing quite a bit a la girls' night out and stuff. |
You mean traditionally women aren't supposed to get drunk in the site of men. As long as the men don't know about their 'sins' it's okay, it goes both ways. |
It has always been okay with most Koreans for women to get drunk and smoke with men in bars and norae-bangs.........but it's still a bit trashy (from Korean POV) for women to get drunk in restaurants like men do.........why? I dunno......I'd be interested to know.........I would guess it's because the kids are often present in restaurants and Koreans think it would be traumatic for them to see mummy hammered.. |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
| jvalmer wrote: |
| Yaya wrote: |
| sadguy wrote: |
| i've worked at two public schools and the majority of the women don't drink. never seen it become a problem. |
Traditionally, women aren't supposed to get drunk in Korea but I've seen this changing quite a bit a la girls' night out and stuff. |
You mean traditionally women aren't supposed to get drunk in the site of men. As long as the men don't know about their 'sins' it's okay, it goes both ways. |
It has always been okay with most Koreans for women to get drunk and smoke with men in bars and norae-bangs.........but it's still a bit trashy (from Korean POV) for women to get drunk in restaurants like men do.........why? I dunno......I'd be interested to know.........I would guess it's because the kids are often present in restaurants and Koreans think it would be traumatic for them to see mummy hammered.. |
Korean women smoking in front of men?
I've only ever seen the "bad girls" at bars/nightclubs in Itaewon and Hongdae do that. Never ever seen a woman smoke at a company dinner. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| redaxe wrote: |
| eamo wrote: |
| jvalmer wrote: |
| Yaya wrote: |
| sadguy wrote: |
| i've worked at two public schools and the majority of the women don't drink. never seen it become a problem. |
Traditionally, women aren't supposed to get drunk in Korea but I've seen this changing quite a bit a la girls' night out and stuff. |
You mean traditionally women aren't supposed to get drunk in the site of men. As long as the men don't know about their 'sins' it's okay, it goes both ways. |
It has always been okay with most Koreans for women to get drunk and smoke with men in bars and norae-bangs.........but it's still a bit trashy (from Korean POV) for women to get drunk in restaurants like men do.........why? I dunno......I'd be interested to know.........I would guess it's because the kids are often present in restaurants and Koreans think it would be traumatic for them to see mummy hammered.. |
Korean women smoking in front of men?
I've only ever seen the "bad girls" at bars/nightclubs in Itaewon and Hongdae do that. Never ever seen a woman smoke at a company dinner. |
Right. I didn't mean to say women smoke in restaurants.
But I've seen older and/or professional women smoking in bars and norae-bangs lots.
These are subtle Korean cultural nuances......when and where and with whom can women of a whatever age or social status drink and smoke........best to ask a Korea woman I guess! |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Korean women smoking in front of men?
I've only ever seen the "bad girls" at bars/nightclubs in Itaewon and Hongdae do that. Never ever seen a woman smoke at a company dinner. |
Seen it once and she wasn't a 'bad' girl, but an older teacher at my school (maybe mid-50's). She just whipped out the cigarette right in front of the principal and vp and started puffing away. The two didn't say a thing, although some of the younger women teachers were a bit shocked. |
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s10czar
Joined: 14 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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"I'd pinpoint the start of the downfall of decent work 'teambuilding' events to the burst of the tech bubble. Because during the tech heyday they'd give away free booze every 2nd Friday, at work, in the summers at a lot of places, 3 hour lunches, half of Europe would be on holidays, so the work load would be light before the winter rush... I just miss those days. Just say I really, really enjoyed those summers."
Amen brother.
But those days are gone gone gone gone.
Enjoy what you have and don't come back here looking for all the things you think you're missing out on.
I'm coming back to Korea. Be there in a month.
Peace Out |
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McGenghis
Joined: 14 Oct 2008
Location: Gangneung
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:09 am Post subject: |
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| I reckon we should all drink alone with radios on and curtains drawn. That should avoid some problems. |
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calicoe
Joined: 23 Dec 2008
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:18 am Post subject: |
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I'm female, worked at a public school, and simply cannot drink the soju or makkeoli. They mostly accepted that I drink cider or water out of their shot glass. Only once was I forced to take a shot, and that was by a female POE boss. But, I learned the female teacher trick of taking a tiny sip and throwing the rest away.
Speaking of forced drinking and its ill-effects, take a look at this brewing controversy:
http://englishteachersout.blogspot.com/ |
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