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tottenhamtaipeinick
Joined: 05 Sep 2010
Location: Canada
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This topic is out of hand.
Simple ways to loose weight which have probably been said.
1. Don't drink carbs (if you are fat what do you need Gatorade for?? even athletes who run marathons dilute the stuff with water! cause it�s a sugar nightmare)
2. Switch to vegetables and fish over other lunches (or any other protein and non processed sugar food)
3. Stay off the white bread, white rice and noodles for a while and go for wholemeal and high fibre sources.
4. Eat your carbs in the morning as your body burns around 1700 calories a day and the earlier you eat them the more likely they will be used up in that or your exercise in the arvo.
5. Do intense workouts over long steady ones. DO NOT GO FOR LONG SLOW WALKS! run like a crazy man in short stints and your body will still burn calories after your workout.
6. Don't drink high calorie alcohol. LOL stick with a whiskey on the rocks instead of beer.
7. Eat more protein as it keeps you full for longer |
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dongjak
Joined: 30 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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| RMNC wrote: |
Believe me, as a BGIK (buff guy in Korea), I know what I'm talking about. |
Have you always been buff, or is this new for you?
If I were looking to get in shape, I would much rather follow someone who consistently remains in shape and doesn't have to revert to fad diets.
I would never follow someone who's weight is always fluctuating, as seems to be the norm with people who follow a no/low carb diet. |
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tottenhamtaipeinick
Joined: 05 Sep 2010
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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If you don't eat carbs where the hell would you get your brain food from?
Just don't over do it!
A Mcdonalds meal can have upto 3000 Calories not to mention how many carbs in it........that is too many |
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RMNC
Joined: 21 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:42 am Post subject: |
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@RMNC
Well done on being a BGIK! I wouldn't claim that for myself as I enjoy my cardio running/cycling mostly...however I'm sure you can get very muscular on almost any diet if you put enough training into it though - heres a chap following the diet I'd recommend - who is fairly "buff"
http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/?page=bio_jackson |
1. I copypasta'd that because it's literally 100% right, had the same problems, and I felt exactly the same way after reading McDougall. The guy is a hack,
2. And to answer you points, I don't trust Clinton on matters of health, as he's a politician and has almost no background in nutrition or medicine. Maybe if Clinton had tried a low carb diet he would have seen result too, but he hasn't. I, however, have.
3. Yes, I've been buff since I was a lifter in high school, but never saw the effects that low carb would have until college. I got bigger, stronger, felt healthier and became leaner when I dropped the "eat as much as you can of anything" policy.
4. The guy talking about olive oil has been debunked on many forums because he selectively chooses his information. He even admits to never having been to the Mediterranean. That's not a good way to start a speech about why you know something about the Mediterranean is wrong. When you've got both pro- and anti- low carb people saying you're wrong (i.e. everyone) then you're probably wrong.
5. Yeah, you can eat 1800 calories of steak or 1800 calories of Twinkies and you'll lose weight. No one will dispute that, it's obvious if you eat less than you use you have to draw energy from somewhere. However you'll also draw energy from your muscles as well as your fat. If you eat low carb, your hormones go after fat instead of muscle. Ketosis, as you might have heard.
6. You can't quote McDougall to prove a point that McDougall says is right.
7. I've been lifting weights for a long time and I've done it while I was a vegan, while I was a vegetarian, while I was an omnivore and now as a low carber. I've never felt better or had better success in lifting as I have right now.
8. Not to take anything away from that body builder, because he looks good, but he doesn't have s*** on most bodybuilders who eat meat. Yeah, you can get buff eating nothing but pizza all day, but you're going to need to eat a LOT of pizza and work out for 15 hours. That's just inefficient, dangerous and stupid.
9. That NY Time article is bogus too. Again, 30,000 years ago is a joke compared to human evolution. The "paleolithic" period extends back 2.6 million years.
Essentially, I know I won't change your mind, but it's okay because you'll still be skinny-fat eating wheat pasta and drinking wine because you think it's good for you. Meanwhile I'll be warming up with 225.
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goniff
Joined: 31 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:17 am Post subject: |
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there was a great french film from the early '70s called "le grande bouffe' (english name 'blow out')
basically it's about these guys who lock theselves in a villa and decide to eat themselves to death (as only the french can do)
i guarantee you that after watching this film you'll find it easy to lose weight and stop eating |
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AmericanBornKorean
Joined: 08 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| RMNC wrote: |
| drydell wrote: |
@RMNC
Well done on being a BGIK! I wouldn't claim that for myself as I enjoy my cardio running/cycling mostly...however I'm sure you can get very muscular on almost any diet if you put enough training into it though - heres a chap following the diet I'd recommend - who is fairly "buff"
http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/?page=bio_jackson |
1. I copypasta'd that because it's literally 100% right, had the same problems, and I felt exactly the same way after reading McDougall. The guy is a hack,
2. And to answer you points, I don't trust Clinton on matters of health, as he's a politician and has almost no background in nutrition or medicine. Maybe if Clinton had tried a low carb diet he would have seen result too, but he hasn't. I, however, have.
3. Yes, I've been buff since I was a lifter in high school, but never saw the effects that low carb would have until college. I got bigger, stronger, felt healthier and became leaner when I dropped the "eat as much as you can of anything" policy.
4. The guy talking about olive oil has been debunked on many forums because he selectively chooses his information. He even admits to never having been to the Mediterranean. That's not a good way to start a speech about why you know something about the Mediterranean is wrong. When you've got both pro- and anti- low carb people saying you're wrong (i.e. everyone) then you're probably wrong.
5. Yeah, you can eat 1800 calories of steak or 1800 calories of Twinkies and you'll lose weight. No one will dispute that, it's obvious if you eat less than you use you have to draw energy from somewhere. However you'll also draw energy from your muscles as well as your fat. If you eat low carb, your hormones go after fat instead of muscle. Ketosis, as you might have heard.
6. You can't quote McDougall to prove a point that McDougall says is right.
7. I've been lifting weights for a long time and I've done it while I was a vegan, while I was a vegetarian, while I was an omnivore and now as a low carber. I've never felt better or had better success in lifting as I have right now.
8. Not to take anything away from that body builder, because he looks good, but he doesn't have s*** on most bodybuilders who eat meat. Yeah, you can get buff eating nothing but pizza all day, but you're going to need to eat a LOT of pizza and work out for 15 hours. That's just inefficient, dangerous and stupid.
9. That NY Time article is bogus too. Again, 30,000 years ago is a joke compared to human evolution. The "paleolithic" period extends back 2.6 million years.
Essentially, I know I won't change your mind, but it's okay because you'll still be skinny-fat eating wheat pasta and drinking wine because you think it's good for you. Meanwhile I'll be warming up with 225.
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I like the cut of your jib. I went from 230 to 160 in about a year, mostly lean muscle and I'm 5'10", and kept it off for 3 years (overweight again, long story). Low carb exercising works, but for hard workouts, I remember my muscles feeling like battery acid was pumping in them if I didn't take in enough carbs. Do you have that problem? How many carbs do you take in for enough glucose? |
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Oreovictim
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
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RMNC
Joined: 21 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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| AmericanBornKorean wrote: |
| I like the cut of your jib. I went from 230 to 160 in about a year, mostly lean muscle and I'm 5'10", and kept it off for 3 years (overweight again, long story). Low carb exercising works, but for hard workouts, I remember my muscles feeling like battery acid was pumping in them if I didn't take in enough carbs. Do you have that problem? How many carbs do you take in for enough glucose? |
Sorry, I thought I replied to this for some reason. I never feel tired or sore when I workout unless I push my limits and get "the burn". But I know that's just muscles being built so I enjoy it. Then again, I had that same symptom when I ate 100% carbs, so I think it has little to do with food. I eat less than 30 carbs per day and I'm pretty cut, though most people wouldn't know it by looking at me. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| What's the first rule of Fat Club? |
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sweet_potato
Joined: 05 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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A lot of good advice has already been posted so I won't repeat it.
I recently decided to diet as well. I have fruits and yogurt for breakfast, then at lunch I have mostly vegetables and a lot of broth. Tiny bit of rice and saucy stuff. Then, after work, I force myself outside for 30 minutes. The goal is "jogging" but since I'm not awesome at it, I end up doing a combination of running/speed walking. Anyway, I'm outside for 30 mins, and I'm definitely feeling the burn in my legs each day. Then, for dinner, I usually have some type of vegetable soup (I cook it so no unnecessary fats/oils etc). It's been a week, my stomach has gotten accustomed to smaller meals and I am starting to actually enjoy my run. My thighs are starting to firm up too. So I'm gonna try to keep this up 
Also, stay away from Korean bakeries. Just because the stuff tastes bland, it doesn't mean it's healthier. The wrapped pastries usually have calories marked on them; you're looking at around 700 a pop. Gasp! |
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brento1138
Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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Didn't read the whole thread, but you should come to these rules.
1) Don't eat anything after dinner. Keep dinner small. And eat it at least 4 hours before bedtime.
2) When you get a food craving, drink tea (there are several varieties out there.) The benefit of drinking tea is not only does it actually help you lose weight, but it will fill your stomach and you will not be hungry. Plus it satisfies your brain's need for something extra. |
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noobteacher
Joined: 27 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| All the advice about don't eat after dinner, run 10 miles a day, don't eat carbs, blah blah blah is great and all, but honestly it all comes down to calories in and calories out. If all you want to do is lose weight, make sure you have a calorie deficit every day and you WILL lose weight. You can do this the healthy way (eating fruits, vegetables, lean meat, etc.) or you can do it the unhealthy way (eating chocolate, ramyun, etc.). Its pretty simple but the difficult part is putting it into practice on a daily basis. |
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madtownhustl
Joined: 04 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| noobteacher wrote: |
| All the advice about don't eat after dinner, run 10 miles a day, don't eat carbs, blah blah blah is great and all, but honestly it all comes down to calories in and calories out. If all you want to do is lose weight, make sure you have a calorie deficit every day and you WILL lose weight. You can do this the healthy way (eating fruits, vegetables, lean meat, etc.) or you can do it the unhealthy way (eating chocolate, ramyun, etc.). Its pretty simple but the difficult part is putting it into practice on a daily basis. |
yea whatever NOOB.
But no, yea... he's right. |
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