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The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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When I try and take a good photo with my cam, I gotta get it right. I gotta think about all the variables that go into taking a good pic. Using an SLR film camera, I dont get the chance to see it right away, and take another shot, or endless shots until I get it right. I then dont get to retouch it, or totally manipulate it on my computer. The pic I get developed is the one I have to live with...
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Good outline of the advantages of digital imaging over film. Very well put.
Can I assume that you're in favour of traditional darkroom munipulative techniques involving tinting, cropping, and adjustment of brightness and contrast during development, because it's "hard", and not done by a computer?
It seems your problem with digital imaging is that you perceive it to be "easy" to come up with a good shot - or at least, easier than shooting with traditional film.
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| Its just too easy to take a good photo and takes away alot of the craftsmanship of it. |
You want photography to be "hard". Sounds elitist to me. |
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tokki
Joined: 26 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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When I try and take a good photo with my cam, I gotta get it right. I gotta think about all the variables that go into taking a good pic. Using an SLR film camera, I dont get the chance to see it right away, and take another shot, or endless shots until I get it right. I then dont get to retouch it, or totally manipulate it on my computer. The pic I get developed is the one I have to live with...
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Good outline of the advantages of digital imaging over film. Very well put.
Can I assume that you're in favour of traditional darkroom munipulative techniques involving tinting, cropping, and adjustment of brightness and contrast during development, because it's "hard", and not done by a computer?
It seems your problem with digital imaging is that you perceive it to be "easy" to come up with a good shot - or at least, easier than shooting with traditional film.
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| Its just too easy to take a good photo and takes away alot of the craftsmanship of it. |
You want photography to be "hard". Sounds elitist to me. |
Its not elitist. digital photography detracts from the craft, because, well, its easy and lazy. The fact is that it is too easy to cheat, and present a photo you didnt take as something you did. |
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The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Too bad you had to make the elitist "it's too easy, anyone can take a picture" argument.
If your problem with digicams had been that the lenses are generally too small and too short, they're too expensive relative to the resolution they offer vs film, they're too fragile, and don't offer the control SLR film cameras do unless you shell out $1000 for the D-SLRs, then you'd have an argument.
That they give regular people who don't know or care about f-stops the opportunity to take decent, well-exposed pictures with ease is not, in my opinion, a winning argument.
Anyway, keep trolling the digicam owners until you get tired of that. What'll be next, Mac vs. PC? Beta vs. VHS? CD vs. LP? |
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indytrucks
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Its not elitist. digital photography detracts from the craft, because, well, its easy and lazy. The fact is that it is too easy to cheat, and present a photo you didnt take as something you did. |
I have mixed views on digital camers and photoshopping the results.
I sometimes think that when you've taken a pic with a SLR, used the appropriate filters, compensated for exposure, taken into account the lighting, chosen the appropriate lens and film and get a great picture without seeing the result immediately in front of you, it's rewarding. That you can get the same result by taking an average picture, with no forethought, by photoshopping it is a little bit like cheating.
This is only my opinion. I'm not trying to start a flame war on the merits of the craft, or dig vs. film cameras. Having said that, some SLR's (like mine) are that easy to use, they almost take the pictures for you.
At the end of the day, it's the composition that counts, and you can photoshop a sh!t picture to death and it will still be crap.
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The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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At the end of the day, it's the composition that counts, and you can photoshop a *beep* picture to death and it will still be crap. |
Amen. |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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So I've been trying to take macros to no avail.
Yes, I've got the camera on the 'Macro' setting but there is something I'm missing.
My pics usually turn out white.
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