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legrande
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 Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
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| Does starvation because of a crappy government count as killing? |
For me - yup. |
Does an ROK soldier shooting a woman while she is holding her child (while US military personnel look on and snap photos) 'cos she doesn't like the US military-backed ROK goon squad count as a killing, "Captain"? |
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legrande
Joined: 23 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Menino80 wrote: |
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that website is a steaming pile of crap it read like NORK propoganda |
All the members of the project documented on the website are people who served in the US military. Is that why you think it is a steaming pile of crap? Think they aren't qualified to comment on the reality of war?
I suppose you think the other websites which document how the ROK massacred civilians are also crap as well. Yeah, they must have been posted by the "NORKS". |
no, just that it tries to pin Korean crimes on Americans, which is pretty NORKy |
Hey, Menino, there's something you ought to know, but you have to keep it under your hat, 'cos it's kinda secrret, okay?...The US military industrial complex (US military doesn't enter into any conflict without first calculating the financial costs and potential gain) actually isn't always the source of justice and good like its made out to be, and have been actively involved in the plunder (see Iraq) and killing of civilians in several countries worldwide. Fact is, the more ammunition and bombs they use, the more money they make (arms shareholders being linked to the military), which is why all military personnel can retire on a fat pension on the backs of US taxpayers, provided they stay alive and in one functioning piece for 20 years of service.
In terms of the Korean War, US military strafing lines of civilians with machine guns from jetfighters, dropping napalm on them and their dwellings, unloading bombs (again, on civilians) even when a military target wasn't cited (orders were given not to return with the load one went out with, as each bomb expended meant more bank), are all documented facts of the theatre of war in Korea. This all went down on account of the fact that Koreans, ALL Korean people, were regarded as "GOOKS", or something subhuman, akin to your and other posters' use of the term "NORKS", so it really didn't matter if they lived or died, were maimed badly or just partially, lost just a brother or both parents.
Imagine that, more Koreans may have perished via US ammunition and bombs, all 600,000 tons worth (more than was used in the entire Pacific WWII campaign), than all the Koreans killed by fellow Koreans and Japanese combined....not that it matters, as after all, they're just "GOOKS", or "NORKS", right, Menino?
So if you're keeping score, OP, it's likey that the answer to your question is, forget Japan or the North, it's likely the US has killed the most Koreans. When you factor in the fact that it is the US military gov't who reinstated those Koreans who had collaborated with the Japanese to suppress, torture, and kill fellow Koreans, and who then killed more Koreans after being reinstated, then the answer is unequivocal. |
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Menino80
Joined: 10 Jun 2007
Location: Hodor?
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| Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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The US military, like all militaries, does some really bad shit. Unlike other militaries, it has more opportunities to do so.
That said, Koreans bear the brunt of the blame for their internecine, anti-communist pogroms, because they were the ones pulling the triggers.
NOrth KOreanS are NORKS. You can try to infuse the term with any umbrage-filled analogies you'd like, I'm sure it makes you feel even more self righteous than you obviously already are. |
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legrande
Joined: 23 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Menino80 wrote: |
The US military, like all militaries, does some really bad shit. Unlike other militaries, it has more opportunities to do so.
That said, Koreans bear the brunt of the blame for their internecine, anti-communist pogroms, because they were the ones pulling the triggers.
NOrth KOreanS are NORKS. You can try to infuse the term with any umbrage-filled analogies you'd like, I'm sure it makes you feel even more self righteous than you obviously already are. |
Dude, get a brainwave going. The US military gov't installed and trained those Koreans who pulled the triggers. The idea was to wash their hands of the massacres by simply standing around watching and snapping photos. Sorta like if I trained and paid a sniper who then took out your buddy. While I watched, and then said, "It wasn't me."
And those 600,000 tons of bombs were not dropped by Korean planes.
So it's not about being self-righteous, it's more about waking up from a western education/mass media-induced dream to the facts of the situation. The easy way out is to deflect, so it depends on if you can handle it or not. |
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Menino80
Joined: 10 Jun 2007
Location: Hodor?
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| Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| legrande wrote: |
Dude, get a brainwave going. The US military gov't installed and trained those Koreans who pulled the triggers. The idea was to wash their hands of the massacres by simply standing around watching and snapping photos. Sorta like if I trained and paid a sniper who then took out your buddy. While I watched, and then said, "It wasn't me."
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Well no it wasn't you, it was the guy who pulled the trigger. If you hired him to kill my buddy that's one thing. If you trained him to kill people, that's quite another. Either way, the preponderance of the blame is on the trigger man, not the US. The US is not blameless, but compared to the Koreans, it's pretty small. But the US military always makes for an easy bogeyman. |
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