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working title



Joined: 20 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:15 am    Post subject: Personal Training - How much? Reply with quote

I got a quote today from my gym for a personal trainer.

They said it was going to cost W1,600,000 for 10 weeks/30 sessions. This comes out to roughly W53,000/hr to hire a personal trainer.

This seems pretty steep. Does anyone on Dave's have a Korean personal trainer and how much do they charge?

Thanks
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definitely maybe



Joined: 16 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most gyms will be falling over themselves to set you up with a workout routine for no extra cost. It's all about you doing it after. If you think you can handle the responsibility of motivating yourself, you'll be all set.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good trainers in Seoul offer 3 sessions a week for around 400,000-500,000 a month. This includes gym membership and may include access to private sections of the gym.
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Johnwayne



Joined: 28 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there a particular reason you want a personal trainer?

I can tell you from personal experience that a great many personal trainers are not very good and certainly not worth the hefty price they charge. I don't mean just in Korea either.

Make friends with someone who exercises (and has for some time) and get the same information you would get from a personal trainer for free.

Or just look around on the internet. You can start here:

http://www.exrx.net/
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The Cosmic Hum



Joined: 09 May 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johnwayne wrote:
Is there a particular reason you want a personal trainer?

I can tell you from personal experience that a great many personal trainers are not very good and certainly not worth the hefty price they charge. I don't mean just in Korea either.

Make friends with someone who exercises (and has for some time) and get the same information you would get from a personal trainer for free.
Or just look around on the internet. You can start here:

http://www.exrx.net/


...an obviously shallow and pathetic approach...much the same as those who employ this technique to avoid paying for language lessons. Rolling Eyes

If the person is qualified...and it is easy to verify...then it can be well worth the money invested in yourself.
Take a few lessons first at an hourly rate...you don't need to pony up all the dough before knowing what you are getting into.

Best of luck with your health.
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Johnwayne



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Cosmic Hum wrote:

...an obviously shallow and pathetic approach...much the same as those who employ this technique to avoid paying for language lessons. Rolling Eyes

If the person is qualified...and it is easy to verify...then it can be well worth the money invested in yourself.


If you find someone who is actually enthusiastic about exercise and does it for reasons other than, "durrr I want to tone my abs", I'm sure you will find in most cases that they don't mind discussing with you various exercise and health related topics. It isn't exactly analogous to answering banal questions about grammar and vocabulary.

Anyways, I wasn't trying to suggest that you go up to some random person you happen to notice exercising and say, "HEY LETS BE FRIENDS! Very Happy ". Presumably, you already know at least one person in your current social circle who exercises on a regular basis.
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jlee83



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

W1,600,000 for 10 weeks is insane... Does he even have a killer body? I ask because a bunch of trainers at my gym have mediocre builds/bodies, even compared to some of the regulars.

Most of the trainers seem to have no idea what they are doing (if they did, it clearly didn't show looking at their physique). Also noticed a lot of unnecessary touching/hand-holding when it came to "training" the clueless ladies. Laughing

Guess being a trainer does have its perks.
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working title



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all of the advice and posts guys =)

I think I'm going to pass on the PT lessons as they are far too expensive. The gym guys said that I needed to buy it as a package and they don't offer any hourly lessons at first for an hourly rate.

I agree with the Cosmic Hum that a PT can definitely enhance training and working out, but then again the classes are too steep.

My best option at this point is to find someone that is motivated and fit to help me learn the ropes and improve my training. There are a bunch of guys that do free weights that are ripped at this gym, so I think eventually I can make friends with a few of these guys.

Thanks again everyone Very Happy
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sadguy



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i almost got certified as a personal trainer in the states but then got a bartending job. in the personal trainer manual, there was nothing really new that i learned that i didn't learn on my own by doing research.

a personal trainer will set you up on a workout plan and diet plan and show you different exercises and proper form. but the thing is, it's HIS/HER opinion on what you should be doing. if you go on forums like the one at bodybuilding.com (they have articles/threads for men and women) then you'll find many many different plans.

i think you need to find out what works best for you instead of listening to just one person. it depends on your own motivation, a personal trainer can't motivate you to come back to the gym when you're tired from work.
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Cosmic Hum wrote:

...an obviously shallow and pathetic approach...much the same as those who employ this technique to avoid paying for language lessons. Rolling Eyes

If the person is qualified...and it is easy to verify...then it can be well worth the money invested in yourself.
Take a few lessons first at an hourly rate...you don't need to pony up all the dough before knowing what you are getting into.

Best of luck with your health.


I don't know how this is deemed shallow. I would be glad to give boxing tips to a novice friend who shows genuine interest. If its not like people who only care to pretend to know because they wanna learn English(like most Koreans I know), it's okay.
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Caffeinated



Joined: 11 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does he even have a killer body? I ask because a bunch of trainers at my gym have mediocre builds/bodies, even compared to some of the regulars.

Most of the trainers seem to have no idea what they are doing (if they did, it clearly didn't show looking at their physique). Also noticed a lot of unnecessary touching/hand-holding when it came to "training" the clueless ladies.


The adage "don't judge a book by its cover" applies just as well to trainers. I worked in the fitness industry myself for several years as a trainer and instructor so I've witnessed a whole gamut of abilities. The best and most knowledgeable trainers I knew didn't have care for having six-packs or big biceps but how they functioned on the football field or the dojo. Among the worst trainers (personality and knowledge-wise) were the fitness model and bodybuilder types.

Touch may be useful during training for correcting technique or for pointing out to the client which muscle a certain exercise is supposed to activate. Some people may respond to seeing a demonstration or a picture in their mind, others are fine just by hearing instructions, but touch may work better for others.

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i think you need to find out what works best for you instead of listening to just one person. it depends on your own motivation, a personal trainer can't motivate you to come back to the gym when you're tired from work.


Just like with any professional, a good trainer can fast-track you to your fitness goal. Also, the threat of getting charged a cancellation fee has proved motivational for quite a few tired clients. Wink

OP: this NYT article on apps may help with motivation and tracking your workouts. I use iFitness to keep track of my workouts.
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jlee83



Joined: 20 Sep 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caffeinated wrote:

The adage "don't judge a book by its cover" applies just as well to trainers. I worked in the fitness industry myself for several years as a trainer and instructor so I've witnessed a whole gamut of abilities. The best and most knowledgeable trainers I knew didn't have care for having six-packs or big biceps but how they functioned on the football field or the dojo. Among the worst trainers (personality and knowledge-wise) were the fitness model and bodybuilder types.

I don't know about you, but when I go to the gym, my main goal is to look "good" in front of the mirror/ladies. I doubt you'll run into any professional athletes and/or boxers/ufc fighters at the gym, trainer or not. So I ask myself, "If they can't motivate themselves to get that kickass body, what exactly can they do for me?"
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Johnwayne



Joined: 28 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caffeinated wrote:

I don't know about you, but when I go to the gym, my main goal is to look "good" in front of the mirror/ladies. I doubt you'll run into any professional athletes and/or boxers/ufc fighters at the gym, trainer or not. So I ask myself, "If they can't motivate themselves to get that kickass body, what exactly can they do for me?"


Believe it or not, some people exercise more for the health benefits rather than 'picking up girls'.

As for why some the best trainers don't always have "kickass" bodies, genetics probably has something to do with it. Not to mention different training goals.

One of my friends, who hasn't dieted a day in his life and eats stuff like mcdonald's and cookies and crap all the time, only exercises three days a week for about an hour each day and yet he still looks like he should be on the cover of a male fitness magazine. And no he isn't 22, he is in his early 30's.

As for me, if I eat that kind of stuff, I start packing on the pounds in no time. To get the levels of body fat my friend is at (i.e. <7%), I would have to diet like it was my primary job.
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The Cosmic Hum



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are serious about getting into a good program...
...check this out.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=201652
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SinclairLondon



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need someone to correct your mistakes, and to motivate you. Having said that.......

P90X is a fantastic program which you can do on your own. Everything is there.
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