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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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It is not right if they are requiring FT's to pay into something which they can not use.
I smell a rat and I don't think this is legit.
Of course, what do I know? |
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willteachforfood
Joined: 24 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
It is not right if they are requiring FT's to pay into something which they can not use.
I smell a rat and I don't think this is legit.
Of course, what do I know? |
It IS only 10 bucks.
Most everyone at home pays into unemployment and never gets a dime back....it's called being part of a society.
Just wait...as soon as the supply truly outstrips demand, you're going to see the Korean government do away with this whole 3.3% garbage. I mean, it's been great for me, but it is insane that we pay such a ridiculously low tax rate when we live in this country full-time. We can drive on the congested roads, send our kids to the depressing schools, go for a walk in the litter strewn parks....why shouldn't we have to pay taxes like everyone else?
However, the fact of the matter is that demand is still MUCH greater than supply in the teacher market...I don't care what anyone says. If public schools were to completely eliminate their NET programs then you'd see a major shift....but as it is today, ANY idiot with a degree can still get a job here....this fact shows that there is not an overabundance of teachers willing to come to live/work in Korea. If they eliminated the tax break you'd see a massive outflow of teachers from Korea (unless they simultaneously raised wages accordingly) and so they will keep it at 3.3% for now....but I would be shocked if the tax rate were to be the same in 10 years time....especially as more and more people opt to settle down and spend a decade or more in this hell hole. |
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Stan Rogers
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
It is not right if they are requiring FT's to pay into something which they can not use.
I smell a rat and I don't think this is legit.
Of course, what do I know? |
You are probably right about it not being legit.
I have no problem with taxes. They are used to pay for things like fire depts, police, military and so forth. Everyone enjoys the benefits of these essential services. But requiring people to pay for something they can never use is a forced donation. The size of the amount is irrelevent. |
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willteachforfood
Joined: 24 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Stan Rogers wrote: |
| I have no problem with taxes. They are used to pay for things like fire depts, police, military and so forth. Everyone enjoys the benefits of these essential services. But requiring people to pay for something they can never use is a forced donation. The size of the amount is irrelevent. |
So nobody should ever be required to pay for taxes that help the mentally handicapped unless they have a retarded child? Only those who choose to have children should pay taxes that go towards schools?
Taxes are ALWAYS a forced donation....that's what a tax is.
Then again...people have been known to have differing opinions about taxation from time to time. |
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Paddycakes
Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: Native teachers now required to pay into Korean Unemploy |
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| It's 10,730 a month for me, but the amount depends on your pay level. I was told they just started requiring foreigners to pay into Korea's unemployment program from January 2011 |
This is great news for all my fellow Canadians from the Maritimes...
You can work at Kim's hogwan till you've got the minimum number of hours, then you can get on the Pogey and go sit at Loteria for 6 months and smoke dope in a DVD room all day till you've exhausted your benefits...
Korea's becoming more and more like Canada everday...
Right on, man! |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:53 am Post subject: |
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| willteachforfood wrote: |
| some waygug-in wrote: |
It is not right if they are requiring FT's to pay into something which they can not use.
I smell a rat and I don't think this is legit.
Of course, what do I know? |
It IS only 10 bucks.
Most everyone at home pays into unemployment and never gets a dime back....it's called being part of a society.
Just wait...as soon as the supply truly outstrips demand, you're going to see the Korean government do away with this whole 3.3% garbage. I mean, it's been great for me, but it is insane that we pay such a ridiculously low tax rate when we live in this country full-time. We can drive on the congested roads, send our kids to the depressing schools, go for a walk in the litter strewn parks....why shouldn't we have to pay taxes like everyone else?
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The Korean government has eliminated the 30% exclusion for foreign workers, so we do pay income taxes here like everybody else.
And the rate is not 3.3%, unless you are an independent contractor.
The rate is according to the NTS withholding table, the same as for Koreans:
http://www.nts.go.kr/eng/help/help_52.asp?top_code=H001&sub_code=HS05&ssub_code=HSE2
And ... there has been no notice yet to our school that foreigners have to pay the unemployment tax. The school has made the monthly payments for the Korean workers this year, but no mention by the tax office that foreign teachers have to pay. |
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morrisfletcher
Joined: 21 Oct 2010
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How quickly things degenerate into BS political discussion......who cares how valid a law is, I just want to know whether or not it is a law at this point.
Do we, or do we not have to pay Unemployment Insurance?
Or maybe I'll just join in the conversation. I'll complain about things we have no ability to change before I even know any facts about what I am complaining about.
"isn't it a load of crap that God went and made the world flat, what an asshole" |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:38 am Post subject: |
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No.
E2 teachers do not pay unemployment tax. |
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noky
Joined: 14 Jul 2010
Location: Yeongcheon
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:41 am Post subject: |
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No.
E2 teachers do not pay unemployment tax. |
This
At the beginning of the year the admin had me sign something to opt out of unemployment. My pay hasn't changed, so I don't care either way. |
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BigBuds
Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:43 am Post subject: |
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| Are you guys seriously complaining about helping the poor? So what if we don't get anything back. We pay for crap all the time that has no bearing on us whatsoever. E.g. Brits, Kiwis, and probably aussies pay pension every month with no refund, neither do we benefit from VAT taxes, and the income tax in general is used for a huge social budget that doesn't target foreigners.. Assuming you make 1.8 a month, your tax rate is .006%, that's a drop in the bucket compared to everything else. If anything we should be paying more |
Um, Aussies and Brits do get their pension refunded. Might want to check you info first. |
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the ireland
Joined: 11 May 2008
Location: korea
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:12 am Post subject: |
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| BigBuds wrote: |
| winterfall wrote: |
| Are you guys seriously complaining about helping the poor? So what if we don't get anything back. We pay for crap all the time that has no bearing on us whatsoever. E.g. Brits, Kiwis, and probably aussies pay pension every month with no refund, neither do we benefit from VAT taxes, and the income tax in general is used for a huge social budget that doesn't target foreigners.. Assuming you make 1.8 a month, your tax rate is .006%, that's a drop in the bucket compared to everything else. If anything we should be paying more |
Um, Aussies and Brits do get their pension refunded. Might want to check you info first. |
aussies do, since when do Brits? |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| I am F2 working as a independent contractor and privates only. But for E2's "tourist" option is looking more attractive every day. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:28 am Post subject: |
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[quote="willteachforfood"]
| some waygug-in wrote: |
It is not right if they are requiring FT's to pay into something which they can not use.
I smell a rat and I don't think this is legit.
Of course, what do I know? |
It IS only 10 bucks.
Most everyone at home pays into unemployment and never gets a dime back....it's called being part of a society.
Yes, but people back home have a right to collect unemployment benefits if the need arises. Whether they ever collect is beside the point, they still have a right to and are part of that society.
This is not the case for FT's in Korea. We will never be considered part of Korean society. No matter how much we try to fit in, learn Korean, eat Korean food, do Korean things, pay taxes, we will always be weigukin deul.
I have no problem paying extra taxes if that's what they want, they could charge 10 bucks and call it a head tax or something and I wouldn't see a problem with it, but to out and out claim that we have to pay for something we are not legally entitled to ever use is not right.
10 bucks ain't much compared to Canadian Income tax though, so you do have a point. But what are they going to add next? |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="some waygug-in"][quote="willteachforfood"]
| some waygug-in wrote: |
It is not right if they are requiring FT's to pay into something which they can not use.
I smell a rat and I don't think this is legit.
Of course, what do I know? |
It IS only 10 bucks.
Most everyone at home pays into unemployment and never gets a dime back....it's called being part of a society.
Yes, but people back home have a right to collect unemployment benefits if the need arises. Whether they ever collect is beside the point, they still have a right to and are part of that society. I am back home, by the way.
This is not the case for FT's in Korea. FT's will never be considered part of Korean society. No matter how much they try to fit in, learn Korean, eat Korean food, do Korean things, pay taxes, they will always be weigukin deul.
If I were to return to Korea,
I'd have no problem paying extra taxes if that's what they want. They could charge 10 bucks and call it a head tax or something and I wouldn't see a problem with it.
But to out and out claim that we have to pay for something we are not legally entitled to ever use is not right.
It sounds like someone is too lazy to check into the facts or someone is trying to scam their resident FT.
You're right that 10 bucks ain't much compared to Canadian Income tax, so you do have a point. But is it 10 bucks a year/month/day? |
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southernman
Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Location: On the mainland again
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| Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Checked my payslip last week. My school did pay the 10 000 odd won for the unemplyment benefit. They did not take any money out of my pay though.
I'm at PS if that makes any kind of difference |
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