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mr.bojangles
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 Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:37 pm Post subject: plagiarism in hagwons? |
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I'm working in a private hagwon in Seoul. Over the last few months, I've noticed that the "boss" is blatantly plagiarizing whole tracts from books and then reprinting them under his own name. He then sells the books to students for profit with no mention of copyright, citations or permission given. The original books are published by large US companies (addison wesley, pearson etc) and I'm pretty sure that this is sketchy business.
I'm only asking because I'm sure that i'm going to get shafted on my contract and I want to have some leverage. Do international copyright laws apply here?
Also, what is the latest that elementary and middle school students can study (according to the ministry of education)? Is it true that it's 10 pm?
Any advice/help would be greatly appreciated.
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kangnamdragon
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: plagiarism in hagwons? |
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| mr.bojangles wrote: |
Also, what is the latest that elementary and middle school students can study (according to the ministry of education)? Is it true that it's 10 pm?
Any advice/help would be greatly appreciated.
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Yes, a hagwon may not be open later than 10 pm. |
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prairieboy
Joined: 14 Sep 2003
Location: The batcave.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 5:25 am Post subject: |
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Copyright laws applying in Korea?  |
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aussie col
Joined: 31 Jan 2004
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Ha Ha Ha... Koreans copying something�� NEVER!!
This whole country is one giant breach of copyright. Everyone does it�� it��s just considered normal.
Examples:
All the Korean chocolate bars that are direct copies of big name chocolates. They don��t even try to hide it. Even the packaging looks the same.
My favourite hagwon in Daegu�� Disney English school or something along those lines. Apart from using the Disney name, the advertising is covered in Disney characters.
Kimbup�� I don��t care what Koreans try and tell me. It looks like sushi. Ok, I know it��s not exactly copyrighted. I just wanted to get some responses from the morons on this board with nothing better to do than to post stupid replies trying to show how superior they are. |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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| aussie col wrote: |
| Kimbup�� I don��t care what Koreans try and tell me. It looks like sushi. Ok, I know it��s not exactly copyrighted. I just wanted to get some responses from the morons on this board with nothing better to do than to post stupid replies trying to show how superior they are. |
I'm just curious if you have ever ate sushi. This statement suggests you haven't, or at least not seen it in a very long time. |
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sadsac
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang
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| Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Korea, the knock off capital of the world. Copyright and trademark infringement are a day to day take for Koreans. They don't care.  |
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rok_the-boat
Joined: 24 Jan 2004
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| Take a walk around the Tongdaemun streets - people making LEVI patches, people selling Rolex watches (which they assure you are made in the copy capital Hong Kong, like that makes them better!), shoes galore with any brand you want, Nike fakes being sold right outside a Nike shop, and so on ad infinitum. As a student in SNU, I saw even studens of law walking around with copied books - ha ha ha. The very guys who will later be in a position to do 'nothin' about it |
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aussie col
Joined: 31 Jan 2004
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Yeah, got one!!!
Knew you wouldn't let me down Gord. |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2004 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Korean - the land of the imitation.
Haven't you noticed they alter something from another country just slightly than sell it off as their own. Ingenious |
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phaedrus
Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Location: I'm comin' to get ya.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 2:06 am Post subject: |
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| Gord wrote: |
| aussie col wrote: |
| Kimbup�� I don��t care what Koreans try and tell me. It looks like sushi. Ok, I know it��s not exactly copyrighted. I just wanted to get some responses from the morons on this board with nothing better to do than to post stupid replies trying to show how superior they are. |
I'm just curious if you have ever ate sushi. This statement suggests you haven't, or at least not seen it in a very long time. |
Mmmmm, sushi.
http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2038.html
Looks good! |
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 2:48 am Post subject: |
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| Gord wrote: |
| aussie col wrote: |
| Kimbup�� I don��t care what Koreans try and tell me. It looks like sushi. Ok, I know it��s not exactly copyrighted. I just wanted to get some responses from the morons on this board with nothing better to do than to post stupid replies trying to show how superior they are. |
I'm just curious if you have ever ate sushi. This statement suggests you haven't, or at least not seen it in a very long time. |
I ate "kimbop" many different kinds, just like the different versions I have now in Korea many many many years before I came to Korea. They were made by Japanese and they called it sushi.
I see no difference at all. |
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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| Kwangjuchicken wrote: |
| Gord wrote: |
| aussie col wrote: |
| Kimbup�� I don��t care what Koreans try and tell me. It looks like sushi. Ok, I know it��s not exactly copyrighted. I just wanted to get some responses from the morons on this board with nothing better to do than to post stupid replies trying to show how superior they are. |
I'm just curious if you have ever ate sushi. This statement suggests you haven't, or at least not seen it in a very long time. |
I ate "kimbop" many different kinds, just like the different versions I have now in Korea many many many years before I came to Korea. They were made by Japanese and they called it sushi.
I see no difference at all. |
I think also the problem might be that Koreas and Westerners both misuse the word sushi and missuse it in the same way. According to my Japanese friends, sushi is the rice and other things that are rolled in a log that is wrapped in a sheet of seaweed (i.e., kimbap in Korea). However, Koreans and Westerners tend to use the word "sushi" to mean raw fish. The word in Japanese for raw fish is "sashimi", not "sushi".
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cacheSurfer
Joined: 07 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 8:29 am Post subject: Re: plagiarism in hagwons? |
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| mr.bojangles wrote: |
| I'm working in a private hagwon in Seoul. Over the last few months, I've noticed that the "boss" is blatantly plagiarizing whole tracts from books and then reprinting them under his own name. He then sells the books to students for profit with no mention of copyright, citations or permission given.....: |
i think all hagwons do this. |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Kwangjuchicken wrote: |
| Kwangjuchicken wrote: |
| Gord wrote: |
| aussie col wrote: |
| Kimbup�� I don��t care what Koreans try and tell me. It looks like sushi. Ok, I know it��s not exactly copyrighted. I just wanted to get some responses from the morons on this board with nothing better to do than to post stupid replies trying to show how superior they are. |
I'm just curious if you have ever ate sushi. This statement suggests you haven't, or at least not seen it in a very long time. |
I ate "kimbop" many different kinds, just like the different versions I have now in Korea many many many years before I came to Korea. They were made by Japanese and they called it sushi.
I see no difference at all. |
I think also the problem might be that Koreas and Westerners both misuse the word sushi and missuse it in the same way. According to my Japanese friends, sushi is the rice and other things that are rolled in a log that is wrapped in a sheet of seaweed (i.e., kimbap in Korea). However, Koreans and Westerners tend to use the word "sushi" to mean raw fish. The word in Japanese for raw fish is "sashimi", not "sushi".
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Sushi is a log of rice with wasabi and a strip of fish on top.
TOTALLY different things all together. Kimbap is veggies and meat etc in the middle of the rice, ROLLED up in kim.
I agree with Gord. It's been a long time since you've had sushi if you think it resembles Kimbap.
Sashimi is just wat you said: raw fish. NO RICE, just the fish. With Sushi you get RICE and a strip of RAW fish on top. Inbetween the rice/fish is wasabi. |
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phaedrus
Joined: 13 Nov 2003
Location: I'm comin' to get ya.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2004 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr. Pink wrote: |
| Kwangjuchicken wrote: |
| Kwangjuchicken wrote: |
| Gord wrote: |
| aussie col wrote: |
| Kimbup�� I don��t care what Koreans try and tell me. It looks like sushi. Ok, I know it��s not exactly copyrighted. I just wanted to get some responses from the morons on this board with nothing better to do than to post stupid replies trying to show how superior they are. |
I'm just curious if you have ever ate sushi. This statement suggests you haven't, or at least not seen it in a very long time. |
I ate "kimbop" many different kinds, just like the different versions I have now in Korea many many many years before I came to Korea. They were made by Japanese and they called it sushi.
I see no difference at all. |
I think also the problem might be that Koreas and Westerners both misuse the word sushi and missuse it in the same way. According to my Japanese friends, sushi is the rice and other things that are rolled in a log that is wrapped in a sheet of seaweed (i.e., kimbap in Korea). However, Koreans and Westerners tend to use the word "sushi" to mean raw fish. The word in Japanese for raw fish is "sashimi", not "sushi".
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Sushi is a log of rice with wasabi and a strip of fish on top.
TOTALLY different things all together. Kimbap is veggies and meat etc in the middle of the rice, ROLLED up in kim.
I agree with Gord. It's been a long time since you've had sushi if you think it resembles Kimbap.
Sashimi is just wat you said: raw fish. NO RICE, just the fish. With Sushi you get RICE and a strip of RAW fish on top. Inbetween the rice/fish is wasabi. |
In this case Gord and Mr.Pink are wrong.
Mmmmm, sushi.
http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2038.html
Looks good! Looks like kimbap. Sushi means rice in vinegar I think. Chobap means rice in vinegar sauce maybe???? |
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