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[god of English]

[eamo]

If you want to bang on forever about people still using XP and ignore the fact that Windows users are steadily transitioning to W7, then we're at a dead-end here.

[god of English]

Lol, you just figured that out now!

[Chokse]

I agree that Win7 is millions of times better than XP or Vista (can anything be worse than Vista?). But, the fact is that while in some developed countries there is a fairly high adoption rate for Win7, the same is not true for lesser developed countries.

Just visit Yongsan Electronics Market and ask around at the shops that build PCs. They will tell you that they install XP on the majority of their builds because that is what Koreans want. And yes, I know XP is no longer for sale, but you and I know that they throw bootleg copies of it on their installs, so that point is moot.

Most Koreans don't want Win7 because it still has issues with Korean websites and with some older hardware items, and because they don't like change when it comes to the OS or software on their computers (25% still using IE6 and probably 90% using IE). Right now, there are more countries/people in the world like Korea than there are like the developed countries where a move to Win7 is taking place.

Like Win98 before it, Koreans (and people of many other countries) will only move away from XP when Microsoft forces them to (dropping all updates and support for XP, as MS did for Win98).

[god of English]

And yet it remains this tremendous mystery to some windows users why people complain about their *recent* experiences with windows.

[Chokse]

One final note: As a Mac user I am actually happy that Microsoft exists and I would think that most Windows users should be happy that Apple exists.

If Apple didn't exist, I think the current version of Windows would be much more like XP than like Win7. I also think that if MS didn't exist, the current version of OSX would lack many of the features it currently has. The competition between the two companies results in us getting all the great bells and whistles that come with each new version of the respective OS. I call that a win for everyone, be it Mac or Windows.

As far as price for the hardware goes, you can argue it all you want, but it is meaningless. If someone has enough money to buy whatever they want, that is his/her choice and he/she should not be criticized for it. Value for anything determined by the person paying for it.

[god of English]

To add to what I wrote last night: I could write a 25-page essay why I dislike Windows 7, but I'll boil it down to three main points:

1. security
Or lack of. Microsoft still can't get this right. Clean install requires too much hardening: firewall, virus-checkers, etc. Too many annoying pop-ups to suppress and disable. Microsoft can't seem to find a happy medium between treating its users like retards and completely exposing the os.

2. poor memory/resource management
Windows 7 is ssslow. Tried to run my company's app platform on windows 7 because I thought it would be easier. Windows choked. This was on system with 8GB RAM, mind you. My laptop running debian handles it with 4GB.

3. annoying, sometimes nonsensical, interface
Microsoft's developers were obviously instructed to make Vista/Windows 7 more appley and the results are clumsy and pretentious, like a teenager wearing her mom's makeup and jewelery. The control panel is just ridiculous.

Windows 7 is not terrible... if you like sh*t. I see it as Microsoft's hasty apology for Windows Vista. It's gotten lots of praise, but I think it's because the horror of Vista is still fresh in peoples' minds. It's like comparing a turd to a 7-foot pile of manure. The turd is gonna look and smell pretty good.

Microsoft can deceive its users because windows users are impressionable and tired of hanging their heads in shame, but make no mistake: Windows 7 is just Vista, sent to fat camp for a year, then dressed in one of Steve Job's black turtlenecks.

[cj1976]

Both platforms have their pros and cons, so we'll all have to agree to disagree. Macs are fine systems, but for me the biggest turn-off with Mac is the image they project. Steve Jobs has created a brand in his own image and it just screams 'Tosser'.
Unlike most Mac owners, I feel a bit embarrassed using a Mac in public because I don't want to be associated with the Apple image.

[Slowmotion]

All I gotta say is thank god "god of english" doesn't work for some magazine or famous blog, otherwise people might actually believe his BS and exaggerations.

[Underwaterbob]

Seven pages of half-assed ad-hocs in a day and a half. Holy waste of time. I'm ashamed to use either platform, neither of which is any "better" than the other.

[akcrono]

[god of English]

[Triban]

God why is this PC vs MAC nonsense been getting 22 pages worth of BS while PC BUILDING IN KOREA...a much better thread which actually displays some sense of productiveness....becoming stagnant?


p.s. Steve Jobs is a douche.

[Chokse]

I don't know? Maybe it's because it's not really that hard to put together a PC. I did it for a friend several months ago. We were in and out of Yongsan in less than an hour with everything we needed, and it only took 30 minutes to slap it all together.

I don't see how that thread warrants a greater amount of attention.

Buy the parts you need and put them together. If you don't know what parts you need, you probably shouldn't be building a PC.

[cj1976]

I hate Steve Jobs with a fiery passion. He is so eminently punchable that it hurts. The idea of lining his pockets is enough to make sure I never buy another Apple product in my life.