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Am I too old for this "career"?
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myenglishisno



Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PRagic



Joined: 24 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was 27 when I first came over to work. 4 years in the Army and finishing up the BA took that much time. I started with people mostly my age, but a couple were younger and a couple were older. Didn't matter much.

If you stay and work, you'll find that the first few years are characterized by a revolving door-type social scene. After a few years, end especially if you make the move to university work, you'll network in with people who are more serious about their work and more apt to be long-termers.

By the time I had my first university job, everyone was about the same age (late 20s to early-mid 30s). Now, my close circle of friends are all in their 40s. The 'newbie' has been here about 10 years or so, and a lot of us are at the 15-20 year mark.

Don't let the age thing bug you. Things work themselves out as long as you invest in yourself and continue to work your way up the food chain.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was about 40 when I first went to Korea, 41 when I first taught in a kiddie hagwon.

I probably would have done better if I had started younger, but then again

who knows really?


I have friends who are in their 60's working in hakwons, so it's really up to you and what you make of it.

What older teachers lack in energy, they tend to more than make up for in experience and knowing what to do.

If you feel like life is leaving you behind, you can still work on a distance
MA. and move up to a better job, if that's what you want.
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ZIFA



Joined: 23 Feb 2011
Location: Dici che il fiume..Trova la via al mare

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jwilks wrote:
I'm 27 and 25-28 seems to be the age of most of the teachers I'm meeting in Korea..


if it appears so, its only because of the recent influx of newbies.
Btw Itaewon bars are Not representative of the Korean teaching population as a whole.

There are still a fair few teachers in their 40's and 50's- just not as many as before the recession.
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silkhighway



Joined: 24 Oct 2010
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

myenglishisno wrote:


As for you guys, where do you meet these older people? I live in the Itaewon area and recently moved to Seoul from the suburbs... everytime I go to a function or meet a group of people, they're always in the 22-25 range, not the 25-30 range and definitely not the 30-35 range.

If anyone has any secrets for meeting more mature people, please let me know. I went to a hiking club and it felt like trading 22-year olds drunk in a club with 22-year olds drunk on a mountain.


This is usually the case "back home" as well. People involved in social clubs and activities tend to be similar to the Korean ESL teacher demographic. Just out of college, not involved in serious relationships, with some spare spending money and time, looking to have some fun. People who are older tend to be in long-term relationships, have families, or are busy with their careers, and casual socializing isn't as important.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I met a few (not many) older ex-pats when I went to Korean classes.

There were also some more mature teachers working at public schools and I met them at meetings etc.

I always lived and worked near Busan though, so I don't know much about Seoul.

Also, when I worked in smaller towns, I tended to meet all the FT's in the area. There seemed to be more older teachers in the rural areas.
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Riker



Joined: 28 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just turned 29 and this will be my first time in South Korea.
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creeper1



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:12 pm    Post subject: To those over 30 and over Reply with quote

I'm glad you put "career" in inverted commas becsaue it isn't really one. A while back there was a thread named "to those over 30 and in Korea." There are some contributions in that thread by a poster named Kimpop. They were very insightful.
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ESL Milk "Everyday



Joined: 12 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's something that you enjoy doing, then you should do it. If you don't enjoy doing it, don't do it.

Don't worry about what you're 'supposed' to be doing, unless you feel like you're really coming up short in life... then figure out what you want to do and do it.
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winterfall



Joined: 21 May 2009

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 23 and went through the party face a lot sooner than most people. Can't stand hanging around any of the new kids fresh outta school. They can't drink and spend all their time at ridiculously posh night clubs. There's plenty of older teachers in Korea. Most of em aren't in hagwons, they made the move to unis or ps a long time ago.
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myenglishisno



Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon

PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

winterfall wrote:
I'm 23 and went through the party face a lot sooner than most people. Can't stand hanging around any of the new kids fresh outta school. They can't drink and spend all their time at ridiculously posh night clubs. There's plenty of older teachers in Korea. Most of em aren't in hagwons, they made the move to unis or ps a long time ago.


Oi. I'm the same as you. I grew out of it in my early twenties. I basically partied myself out at 19/20 and by the time I was 22 I just realized how stupid it was and quit. It's not so much an age thing as it is a personality thing, I guess.
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millyfrend



Joined: 29 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 1:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Am I too old for this "career"? Reply with quote

You're never too old to change things up in your life. The important thing is too be happy, cause life is short.

myenglishisno wrote:
I worked in a public school before so I never really thought about it until I started working at a hagwon this year.

I'm 27, going on 28 this year (ugh). I went to work for a hagwon that pays better and has a lot less of the "local culture" than my PS did (what it lacks in culture it makes up for in work).

I went out to a shindig with some co-workers (I've been working at this hagwon for less than a month so I never really had a chance to find out much about my foreign co-workers). Anyway, I found out they're all 22-ish, recent graduates and I'm the old fogey. They didn't let me forget it either. Even my boss, who came out with us, was asking me why I came to work in Korea at such an old age. It was all very embarrassing, despite the fact I'm making a lot more than the other foreign teachers (I'm their immediate "boss" if that makes any sense).

Am I too old for this? I'm working on my MA in my free time and plan to work at a uni next year. I hope I'm not considered too old for that, too!
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southernman



Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Location: On the mainland again

PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are roughly a third of your way through life.

So yes you are too old for the job if you think you are. The attitude to age is subjective in many way's and it appears that you have chosen to become old before your time.

In my time I've met a 19 yr old female solo mom with a mortage who had the energy and vigour not to mention demeanor of someone in their mid sixties who had had a hard life.

However, I also met a Canadian grandmother who was in her mid sixties who was backpacking around the world. She was staying in one of the dodgiest Pensions in Cairo. She had the attitude and vigour of a teenager.

So it's up to you..... it really is your choice, are you to old or not? I'd say yes unless you have an attitude adjustment.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was 46 when I came to Korea, 58 now. My job has grown nicely year-by-year & I have good times outside of work with the inflood of 20-somethings. As posters above suggest, dont get caught up in societal expectations. Carve your own path.
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bobbybigfoot



Joined: 05 May 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Op, you gotta be a troll.

Am I too old at 27? GTFO.
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