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methdxman
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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 Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:41 am Post subject: When will ActiveX die? |
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http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2933205
Interesting article on the Korean government taking steps to reduce ActiveX dependency. I don't really care about the other negatives about Korea. This is the worst thing about Korea. Forget possible nuclear war with North Korea and everything else.
Anyone know of any commercial websites that do not require Active X, by the way? Any banks? |
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nick70100
Joined: 09 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:53 am Post subject: |
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Here's the most relevant quote from that article...
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| Controversy surrounding ActiveX is nothing new. |
Seriously, I've read basically the same article at least 10 times since I came to Korea six years ago. They should just keep a copy on file so they don't have to write something new every time. They know ActiveX sucks, they know it's a security risk, they know no one else in the world is still using it, and they've known all of this for a very long time. Still, nothing has changed.
I would love it if ActiveX disappeared, but some government panel of experts making suggestions isn't going to make a bit of difference.
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| Anyone know of any commercial websites that do not require Active X, by the way? Any banks? |
In Korea? You must be joking. |
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RobertGR
Joined: 03 Jun 2009
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:56 pm Post subject: ActiveX |
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From the article:
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ActiveX downloads applications needed for online tasks like banking and shopping, as well as viewing and downloading certain content.
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The rest of the world manages fine without having to use ActiveX for these things.
ActiveX has full access to a computer once the user accepts it. It relies on digital signatures to control acceptance. The problem here is that everyone is conditioned to accept whatever signature is presented. The controls used are also sensitive to the browser and version of Windows.
The one thing that may lead to decreases in ActiveX in Korea is the spread of alternative platforms such as smartphones and tablets. |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC
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| Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: ActiveX |
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The rest of the world manages fine without having to use ActiveX for these things. |
Yeah, my wife got tired of hearing me bitch about how annoying it was to buy anything from a website. So what did I do? I pulled up my US bank online banking site and showed her how easy it was. She was completely surprised that it took just 10 seconds and a couple of passwords. Done. Completely secure. no extra software. |
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nstick13
Joined: 02 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Smart Phones run on Apps though, and thus rather than updating websites to be smart phone compatible (ie destroying ActiveX) the digi-teams of banks, for example, are writing Apps from scratch. |
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Slowmotion
Joined: 15 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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I love the active X ap from one of the Korean sites (registering for a cash receipt card) that disabled my keyboard lol
Even closing the browser didn't work, I had to reboot. |
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jonpurdy
Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: Ulsan
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| Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Smart Phones run on Apps though, and thus rather than updating websites to be smart phone compatible (ie destroying ActiveX) the digi-teams of banks, for example, are writing Apps from scratch. |
When the iPhone arrived I was so happy that it was selling so well. Finally, e-commerce sites and banks would have to update their websites to work on standards-compliant browsers.
Nope. They decided to write custom apps for each device (now that Android is popular as well). |
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Savant
Joined: 25 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:12 am Post subject: |
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"Korea: The Hub of ActiveX Design"
Put that on one of their stupid branding posters. |
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red_devil
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:20 am Post subject: |
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| nick70100 wrote: |
Here's the most relevant quote from that article...
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| Controversy surrounding ActiveX is nothing new. |
Seriously, I've read basically the same article at least 10 times since I came to Korea six years ago. They should just keep a copy on file so they don't have to write something new every time. They know ActiveX sucks, they know it's a security risk, they know no one else in the world is still using it, and they've known all of this for a very long time. Still, nothing has changed.
I would love it if ActiveX disappeared, but some government panel of experts making suggestions isn't going to make a bit of difference.
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| Anyone know of any commercial websites that do not require Active X, by the way? Any banks? |
In Korea? You must be joking. |
Yeah i LOL'd to this article. They've been talking about this reliance on ActiveX for years.
Apparently they're going to start "inducing" people to switch. Probably MS realizes how much money they're losing from people not upgrading their OS.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2011/03/123_83331.html |
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archmagos
Joined: 14 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| Savant wrote: |
"Korea: The Hub of ActiveX Design"
Put that on one of their stupid branding posters. |
Lol ... guess we shouldn't expect any computer security conferences in Korea any time soon.
Although it's a pain, I've been keeping a windows virtual machine on my Ubuntu desktop solely for Korean websites (eg. internet banking) ... I believe Darren Kitchen on Hak5 likened it to a monkey flinging crap around inside a sandbox. |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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Just last week I had a $#!T-fit trying to update the banking certificate. And it didn't work.
One thing Korea could do is... get IT training from places other than Korea GASP!
India, Russia, the US- hell they could log onto Youtube and watch thenewboston and learn how to code for FREE. But alas, that would imply that Korea isn't #1 at computing anymore. Whether they were ever #1 at any time is debatable, but accepting help from someone else is a bitter pill the tech industry here doesn't want to swallow  |
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methdxman
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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The good news is that Apple is coming in with their online store, and I think it will only take one online commercial hub such as Gmarket to change the whole country around.
Hopefully this will be sooner than later. |
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4567654
Joined: 21 May 2010
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| Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:47 am Post subject: |
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short answer: not soon enough.
here's a new article in the Economist about the vapid nature of SK IT
"Game over
A liberal, free-market democracy has some curious rules and regulations "
http://www.economist.com/node/18561127?story_id=18561127
heheh, they use the word "curious," and everyone else in this thread uses the word *&^#(*&
i guess it's "curious" when you don't have to live here. |
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