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brento1138
Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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Be careful!!! If you write that note and give it to her, you are giving her all the leverage she needs to prove that you are indeed a bad teacher and worth firing!!
Don't hand in that letter, no matter what.
She will win, and you will lose.
Whatever you do, trust me, don't do it... sounds very fishy! |
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noobteacher
Joined: 27 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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Ok so I was able to talk to my won jawn nim today, and we struck a verbal agreement. She agreed to give me my LOR only if I revised my resignation note. In my first note I submitted, I blamed her for causing the hostile environment, and stated she had unreasonable expectations. She didn't like that too much, so she wants me to rewrite in placing ALL the blame on me. I rewrote it saying I failed to teach my class in a professional and timely manner, and I bear all responsibility for failing to keep the contract agreements.
I haven't handed it in yet. She REALLY doesn't want to write the LOR, so I'm trying to be very careful how this situation is handled. She was very hesitant to agree and she only said she would look into it first. Now if she does write the letter, then is this a good deal for me? With a resignation note where I take ALL the blame, then does that mean I won't be able to find another job? What if a school that wants to hire me wants to talk to my last boss? Should I even update my resume to include I've work at this school?? |
You definitely need and want the LOR to be able to leave, but don't do it the way she wants you to!! Like others said it will give her all the leverage she needs to fire you on the spot and have a valid reason that you won't be able to contest with immigration. You said you had an FBI check with a few days left on it, so if I were you, I would make sure you have all your other documents ready, find a new job ASAP and quit OR do a midnight run. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| cobradiner wrote: |
| Ok so I was able to talk to my won jawn nim today, and we struck a verbal agreement. |
There's no such thing as a verbal agreement here, friend; no such thing. If it's not in writing, you're not getting it. |
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:15 am Post subject: |
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| noobteacher wrote: |
| cobradiner wrote: |
Ok so I was able to talk to my won jawn nim today, and we struck a verbal agreement. She agreed to give me my LOR only if I revised my resignation note. In my first note I submitted, I blamed her for causing the hostile environment, and stated she had unreasonable expectations. She didn't like that too much, so she wants me to rewrite in placing ALL the blame on me. I rewrote it saying I failed to teach my class in a professional and timely manner, and I bear all responsibility for failing to keep the contract agreements.
I haven't handed it in yet. She REALLY doesn't want to write the LOR, so I'm trying to be very careful how this situation is handled. She was very hesitant to agree and she only said she would look into it first. Now if she does write the letter, then is this a good deal for me? With a resignation note where I take ALL the blame, then does that mean I won't be able to find another job? What if a school that wants to hire me wants to talk to my last boss? Should I even update my resume to include I've work at this school?? |
You definitely need and want the LOR to be able to leave, but don't do it the way she wants you to!! Like others said it will give her all the leverage she needs to fire you on the spot and have a valid reason that you won't be able to contest with immigration. You said you had an FBI check with a few days left on it, so if I were you, I would make sure you have all your other documents ready, find a new job ASAP and quit OR do a midnight run. |
This is about pay. Do you really think any hagwon really cares about another hagwon? If the teacher is that bad then hagwon 1 would be glad to send lemon teacher over to hagwon 2.
You need to learn some basic rules of the game here. Don't cause conflict until you are ready to walk away with nothing. Right now conflict is being "resolved". It's TOO late to collect anything under the table. If you want to go to labor board, don't sign anything because this letter of resignation "might" be used against you.
I have signed these before and moved on to another school without going to labor board so I don't know how true that is. Maybe schools show parents to get their children to return, I don't know really.
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| does that mean I won't be able to find another job? |
If you get a letter of release then only the recruiter will question you. Being in Korea gives you a big advantage. Again, it's all part of the game. You are getting wrapped up in it trying to control things, and you can't. Just pack up your stuff and move on to the next school. When it goes sour, move on. These jobs are not meant to be your next home. |
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siwawalter
Joined: 16 Feb 2011
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:30 am Post subject: Re: Quitting my job - looking for general tips and etc |
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That's crazy. A living hell? They can do that.
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I have six weeks left at my old job, and I'm looking to stay in Korea. I'm currently job searching, but the next six weeks my boss implied she's going to make my life hell now. I'm currently going through a lot of hate and stress all directed at me at my job, so I would like to know how to move on and secure my next job.
How my decent hagwon turned into a nightmare overnight: I've always had some disputes and problems with my boss from day one, but we've managed to comprise many times. A couple of weeks ago I was asked to do a lengthy assignment outside of my working hours because I wasn't given proper planning time to do it. I now no longer have sufficient planning time (I used to) because I have to constantly watch over my kids, so I told my boss this was not fair. In my contract, it says I'm given one hour of planning by myself, with co-teachers, to make syllabuses, but to also supervise kids.
As soon as I mentioned overtime pay, she flipped out and became emotional. Ever since then she has tried to make my life a ****hole by barging into my class telling my teaching is horrible because I can't control 3 year old kids 5 hours at a time. She has taken my little lesson plan freedom as well forcing me to teach to the TEXTBOOKS she gave me for kindergarten. I've been yelled at in class for trying to use games and also for when my kids ripped and crumbled the worksheets I gave them. I'm given minor tasks to do during my class as well, and it's impossible to constantly watch my kids while doing them. I have a co-teacher, but I'm expected to do everything now. I know now she is doing this intentionally, so I would quit this week. This will probably continue for the next 6 weeks though.
Unfortunately, I think I've lost any fighting ground because although I've been coming to work on time recently I was late many times my first months here coming in 10 minutes late. Yeah I'm not perfect, but it looks like we teachers have to be when in Korea. What should I do regarding my visa because I don't think she'll give me the release letter. Do I go about my day at work as normally as possible? Also, she has threatened to doc my pay because I've been late many times before. |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:51 am Post subject: |
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No letter of resignation you EVER write should involve accepting blame or assigning blame for why you are leaving your workplace. Keep it short and sweet. You are leaving for personal reasons to pursue other opportunities. Thank your boss for the opportunities for personal and professional growth. Let him or her know it was a "memorable" experience.
Anything you say can and will be used against you. Better to remain silent. |
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Troglodyte
Joined: 06 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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You gain nothing from writing a letter of resignation with something bad about the employer. Only the employer is ever going to see it. It's not like she's going to ever show it to another teacher or customer.
You lose big time by writing any letter that accepts blame for something.
If you've already said something bad about your employer, then do like the locals - deny everything. "I never said that. How could you accuse me of such a thing. I'm so hurt by this false accusation." |
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