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fratnoodle
Joined: 28 Feb 2011
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 Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:55 pm Post subject: St. Patrick's Day. |
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| The funniest holiday of the year especially if you have ever lived in North America. This holiday is when all the Caucasians with at least a tear drop of Irish blood drink and talk about how Irish they are. "Oh yeah, my family likes to drink...and we all have red hair"....blah, blah, blah... |
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nukeday
Joined: 13 May 2010
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| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:13 pm Post subject: Re: St. Patrick's Day. |
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| fratnoodle wrote: |
| The funniest holiday of the year especially if you have ever lived in North America. This holiday is when all the Caucasians with at least a tear drop of Irish blood drink and talk about how Irish they are. "Oh yeah, my family likes to drink...and we all have red hair"....blah, blah, blah... |
Let me guess, you're Irish. You and the_ireland should get together and have a (wineless) whinefest. "Oh boo-hoo, they're not real Irish like me and take away attention I should be getting."
And this is completely off-topic.
You guys complain way more about St Patrick's Day than Mexicans ever do about Cinco de Mayo. It's an excuse of a holiday, one of many, to get drunk. Just like Cinco de Mayo, Independence Day, and, of course, Christmas. Get over yourself. Have a drink, loosen up, and hang out with people who are celebrating YOUR holiday more than you yourself do. Think of how grateful you should be that you aren't Korean and have to beg people to recognize your culture. |
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Lee Myung Bak
Joined: 25 Jun 2010
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh... the Irishman's disdain toward the "Plastic Paddies" |
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Landros
Joined: 19 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:25 am Post subject: shamrocks grow all over... |
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| seriously do you have to be from the north pole to celebrate xmas or roman to give chocolates on valantines? the irish that are stuck up about others wearing green really wind me up. |
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Marzipoo
Joined: 10 Feb 2011
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:46 am Post subject: |
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I am pretty much the furthest you can get from Irish but still, Irish I was drunk right now 
I must admit though, if I was even a tiny bit Irish I would totally be a hardcore St. Patty's day snob about it. GET OFF OF MY HOLIDAY! And gimme that green beer! |
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cyui
Joined: 10 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:16 am Post subject: |
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| What is this holiday celebrating religously? |
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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: shamrocks grow all over... |
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| Landros wrote: |
| seriously do you have to be from the north pole to celebrate xmas or roman to give chocolates on valantines? the irish that are stuck up about others wearing green really wind me up. |
I have lost count of the number of times I've heard Americans, and only Americans, blather on about how they are 'x'-American because a member of their family 5 million years ago came from 'x'. It gets really tedious hearing it over and over and over again. You don't hear me going around saying I'm French-Scottish because my family migrated north from France over 1000 years ago. Why don't I do this? Because it's totally and utterly moronic to cling to a nationality and culture that doesn't define you in any way. It's even worse when you have to deal with people with an antiquated and feckless understanding of the culture.
Having said that, I'm all for getting drunk so enjoy your Guinness today. |
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nukeday
Joined: 13 May 2010
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:42 pm Post subject: Re: shamrocks grow all over... |
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| morrisonhotel wrote: |
| Landros wrote: |
| seriously do you have to be from the north pole to celebrate xmas or roman to give chocolates on valantines? the irish that are stuck up about others wearing green really wind me up. |
I have lost count of the number of times I've heard Americans, and only Americans, blather on about how they are 'x'-American because a member of their family 5 million years ago came from 'x'. It gets really tedious hearing it over and over and over again. You don't hear me going around saying I'm French-Scottish because my family migrated north from France over 1000 years ago. Why don't I do this? Because it's totally and utterly moronic to cling to a nationality and culture that doesn't define you in any way. It's even worse when you have to deal with people with an antiquated and feckless understanding of the culture.
Having said that, I'm all for getting drunk so enjoy your Guinness today. |
Your 1000 year old french roots don't really compare. The vast majority of immigrants came to America within the last 160 years - and that's a generous number. Surnames aren't everything (I'd know, I'm not Jewish and I have a Jewish surname), but does your last name reflect your French roots?
America, being a heterogeneous society at its core, can make people feel alienated. If it makes you feel superior, "American" identity, on its own, doesn't cut it for many people, so they try to find identity in their ancestry. European-Americans do it, Asian-Americans do it, Latin-Americans do it.
An X-American isn't really all about trying to emulate a false image of X. Rather, I'd say, the X-American is a unique creation. A blend of the old and the new. And, look, the Euros can be just as bad when they sit down with an American and play the "guess your ancestry" game if they think you look like a particular breed of European (this annoys the crap out of me because I'm a mutt and get tired of pretending to take an Irish's comment on how Irish I look as some sort of compliment - or the same from a Russian or a Pole).
Few people complain about Asians or Latinos being "Plastic Asians" or "Latinos Plasticos" because they're more recent immigrants, but when is the cutoff year?
By the way, Canadians do it too. had a Canadian girl go on and on about how she suppresses her British accent in order to teach in Korea. |
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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:09 pm Post subject: Re: shamrocks grow all over... |
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| nukeday wrote: |
your 1000 year old french roots don't really compare. The vast majority of immigrants came to America within the last 160 years - and that's a generous number. A fairly large number of Americans I've met who have said this nonsense to me have often had family in the US longer than 160 years
America, being a heterogeneous society at its core, can make people feel alienated. If it makes you feel superior, "American" identity, on its own, doesn't cut it for many people, so they try to find identity in their ancestry. European-Americans do it, Asian-Americans do it, Latin-Americans do it.
An X-American isn't really all about trying to emulate a false image of X. I would say this assertion is false. I've heard rather bizarre understandings of my own culture from 'Scotch'-American - even things like describing themselves as 'Scotch' to me represents a clinging to a ridiculously antiquated, and often romanticist, vision of what Scottish culture is like Rather, I'd say, the X-American is a unique creation. A blend of the old and the new. And, look, the Euros can be just as bad when they sit down with an American and play the "guess your ancestry" game if they think you look like a particular breed of European (this annoys the crap out of me because I'm a mutt and get tired of pretending to take an Irish's comment on how Irish I look as some sort of compliment - or the same from a Russian or a Pole).
Few people complain about Asians or Latinos because they're more "recent" immigrants - but when is the cutoff year?
By the way, Canadians do it too. had a Canadian girl go on and on about how she suppresses her British accent in order to teach in Korea. |
I've never heard a Canadian say similar things. Perhaps they do. I don't know.
As to when the cutoff year is, I'd suggest when there's no tangible link to the old country living in the new country. That is, no one in the family living in the new country was born in the old country, no one in the family is able to speak the language of the old country, etc. |
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cyui
Joined: 10 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, yeah, we are living in the 21st century..but you should that history ALWAYS repeats itself ( in one way or another). No, surnames aren't everythinjg, but when you can use it ( same with ancestory) for the better then best to do that. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:12 am Post subject: |
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St Paddy's Day is just another holiday that I really get into at home, but not at all in korea. I like pinning the shamrocks on, going to mass with the stereotypically large family, having the big fry after, then going to the pub for a few pints of Smithwicks. When I was a teenager it was a massive excuse to get hammered and I did get drunk for the first time on Paddys day.
The wannabe irishness of north Americans does wind me up a little but they are harmless mostly. It is weird though. I have family in England, Australia, America and Scotland. Only the Americans call themselves Irish and they emigrated way before the others. Like 4 generations. They are a bit corny, but it is just their way of having fun I suppose. I do however love thanksgiving. So i can understand getting in to another culture's holiday.
After I finish working tonight, I'll head out for a few beers, have a laugh at yanks with their face painted green, nod my head at stories of their granny emigrating, endure spud/bog related humour from english twats and then call it a night. |
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