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rchristo10
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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 Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:48 am Post subject: Japan Exodus, Japanese Influx |
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Ok, my prediction. I could be wrong (and sorta thinking about the Kobe experience as well). Anyone else foresee a mass exodus of Japanese people (especially their children) from Japan to Korea for the sake of safety and education? During Kobe, Japan/ Korea relations were pretty bad. But with the Hallyu movement it just seems to be in the works.
Am I really off-base here? |
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Radius
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:10 am Post subject: |
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| I don't think so. Things will go back to normal soon enough. |
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Louis VI
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom
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| Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:23 am Post subject: |
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| There would be acid reflux and a mass return to their homeland after realizing they'd be second class citizens on the peninsula. |
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ESL Milk "Everyday
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:38 am Post subject: |
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Yeah... I can't see it happening. The Japanese are too proud and too tough... and if there's one thing they love, it's WORK.
The English teachers on the other hand...
...are probably headed home. |
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Radius
Joined: 20 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 6:28 am Post subject: |
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| ESL Milk "Everyday wrote: |
Yeah... I can't see it happening. The Japanese are too proud and too tough... and if there's one thing they love, it's WORK.
The English teachers on the other hand...
...are probably headed home. |
Guarantee you they come here and make job competition that much more disgusting. |
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nero
Joined: 11 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:17 am Post subject: |
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I lived in Japan. My Japanese friends would equate moving to Korea on the same level that an American would to moving to Mexico.
Not gonna happen. |
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ESL Milk "Everyday
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Also, over 90% of the country is still perfectly fine... it's just Sendai and the northeast coast (not Sapporo) that were hit. Why would the Japanese come to Korea if they still have the rest of the country???
It might dissuade some of the ESL newbs from going there, but it really shouldn't. I mean, we're talking about the people who rebuilt Hiroshima.
Unless there's a major meltdown in Fukushima-- and it doesn't look like there will be--things will go on as usual. |
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ESL Milk "Everyday
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Radius wrote: |
| Guarantee you they come here and make job competition that much more disgusting. |
You do know that for most people, this is a one-time one-year thing, right? If you were nine months in when this happened, you're probably not going to want to start over in Korea.... especially if your area experienced little to no damage.
If you're in an area that was hit hard, then you're probably too freaked out by the idea of dying abroad to want to just hop on another plane right away. There will be no refugees... Japan is a big place.
Again, this is a tragedy but it's not going to change ESL. |
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happiness
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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rchristo10
Joined: 14 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| ESL Milk "Everyday wrote: |
Also, over 90% of the country is still perfectly fine... it's just Sendai and the northeast coast (not Sapporo) that were hit. Why would the Japanese come to Korea if they still have the rest of the country???
It might dissuade some of the ESL newbs from going there, but it really shouldn't. I mean, we're talking about the people who rebuilt Hiroshima.
Unless there's a major meltdown in Fukushima-- and it doesn't look like there will be--things will go on as usual. |
Was inclined to just hear opinions, but at this point I feel it prudent to give my 50 cents.
1. America's relationship with Mexico (mentioned in a prior post) is very different than the case of Korea and Japan. In the latter, the relative size and historical experiences of the two countries are a great deal more connected, not to mention the fact that Japan has pretty much nothing else to run to unless you think they'd be more inclined to go south of the border (i.e. Southeast Asia or perhaps pile up on one another in Kyushu/ Okinawa...which is possible...but it doesn't reduce the argument that Korea is also a major option). But regardless, the relative sizes (esp. economic sizes here) of the countries and the "escape" abilities are also much greater (Japan to Korea)...so a more adequate comparison would be Mexican's running to America (Texas, Cali...) to escape a natural disaster, not vice-versa.
2. To the above, it's clear that a meltdown is quite possible.
3. To those who think that moving to another country has to do with whether a people think they'll be in a nice neighborhood is also way off the mark. Not to throw out random historical notions (which I admit I am), but black slaves in the US didn't run north because they thought they'd be living next to nice, educated whites. This exodus of Japanese has a great deal to do with avoiding death and avoidable nuclear exposure.
4. To the hyena above, I don't think many Japanese citizens would support your morbid humor or the notion that getting away is a funny or strange option, even if it means going to Korea.
5. Honshu is the main island of Japan; a nuclear meltdown even in Fukushima would effect nearly 50% of Honshu, perhaps more. Considering that Honshu is more than 80% of the country, I would be not so inclined (as a prior poster reasoned) that 90% of Japan is fine.
Take each of the above as a dime of difference with what I've been reading so far. I think you all have valid points and clearly a deep understanding of Japan and its history. I used to study at Kyushu Uni on a Fulbright & Monbusho scholarship for a year or so and admit that I still have much to learn about Japan. But I think that when death is staring a person in the face, sometimes life and one's livelihood isn't just a matter of social/cultural perceptions.
To add some clarity to my point (probably didn't do this and thus the flood of odd replies), this influx could honestly be temporary. But as I've seen from people who come to Korea (surely many on this forum can relate) not all temporary leaves turn out to be so temporary.  |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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I lived in Japan. My Japanese friends would equate moving to Korea on the same level that an American would to moving to Mexico.
Not gonna happen. |
Exactly.....just bringing up the idea is nuts. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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There is going to be no noticeable exodus. Japan is a country that went through 2 nukes, earthquakes and tsunamis have been rocking the country since people started living in Japan. Most Japanese are going nowhere except somewhere else in their country, probably further away from the coasts.
I do see a possible bump in the birthrate though, often in times of trouble people seek the 'embrace' of others. |
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happiness
Joined: 04 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:29 am Post subject: |
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hi, im a hyena
no, your comment about Japanese coming here. The ones who like Hallyu are very little, albeit a big enough fan club. Coming here for education? haha..ok. Most Japanese think Koreans are backwards anyways.and Alcoholics...
i lived years in J and K. Sorry. When I read your comment, well...i had a good laugh. |
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