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siwawalter
Joined: 16 Feb 2011
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 Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:56 am Post subject: Re: How much can you make in South Korea |
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What? You can negotiate your salary?
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| siwawalter wrote: |
The first year.
The second year.
The third year.
What is the normal salary, not max. |
Hard to say since you provide next to no information!
What are your qualifications?
What experience do you have?
Where do you want to work (Hakwon, PS...)
What else do you bring to the table?
Depending on where you work (ex: Hakwon) how good of a negociator are you? |
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Nester Noodlemon
Joined: 16 Jan 2009
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| Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:53 pm Post subject: Re: How much can you make in South Korea |
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| siwawalter wrote: |
What? You can negotiate your salary?
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| siwawalter wrote: |
The first year.
The second year.
The third year.
What is the normal salary, not max. |
Hard to say since you provide next to no information!
What are your qualifications?
What experience do you have?
Where do you want to work (Hakwon, PS...)
What else do you bring to the table?
Depending on where you work (ex: Hakwon) how good of a negociator are you? |
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My guess is, after 2~3 months in Korea, you will be at the airport headed back to your home county. Therefore, you can make about 2 months salary. That should be enough to pay for your plane ticket. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:10 am Post subject: Re: How much can you make in South Korea |
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| siwawalter wrote: |
What? You can negotiate your salary?
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
| siwawalter wrote: |
The first year.
The second year.
The third year.
What is the normal salary, not max. |
Hard to say since you provide next to no information!
What are your qualifications?
What experience do you have?
Where do you want to work (Hakwon, PS...)
What else do you bring to the table?
Depending on where you work (ex: Hakwon) how good of a negociator are you? |
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Are you sure you wish to travel abroad and work in a different country?
You seem (sorry if that offends you) pretty darn naive and inexperienced. Still, I suppose we all had to start somewhere so here goes:
You can negociate your salary if you have LEVERAGE. From your post, you seem to be a newbie with no experience and non-education related qualifications. That means you have zero leverage so neogicating conditions with a Hakwon (you cannot negociate with a PS as contracts are standardazied) will be hard. The negociation point was linked to the 2nd and 3rd year part of your wide open and under-informed question.
Good luck. |
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TECO
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:43 am Post subject: Re: How much can you make in South Korea |
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| siwawalter wrote: |
The first year.
The second year.
The third year.
What is the normal salary, not max. |
How long is a piece of string? |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:18 am Post subject: |
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This month I just nudged up to 6.6M Yeah, yeah
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That's a good start. Let us know when you start making real coin. 
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Nowadays I don't go anywhere near the black economy. I genuinely believe that tax fraud and tax avoidance are the biggest hindrance to building a fairer society. Yes I expect to be called a bonehead and worse but I'm not really telling you to stop it, however it may seem. Just saying, keep it to yourself and be very ashamed. |
Just to clarify:
Tax evasion is illegal. It involves using illegal means to lower your net taxes paid.
Tax avoidance is legal. It involves using legal means to lower your tax bill - things like deductions for dependents, deductions for mortgage interest and other legal items available that allow you to legally reduce your tax bill. When you plan and choose to buy a house and borrow and deduct the interest payment you are using tax avoidance. |
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FDNY
Joined: 27 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| ontheway wrote: |
| edwardcatflap wrote: |
| Nowadays I don't go anywhere near the black economy. I genuinely believe that tax fraud and tax avoidance are the biggest hindrance to building a fairer society. Yes I expect to be called a bonehead and worse but I'm not really telling you to stop it, however it may seem. Just saying, keep it to yourself and be very ashamed. |
Just to clarify:
Tax evasion is illegal. It involves using illegal means to lower your net taxes paid.
Tax avoidance is legal. It involves using legal means to lower your tax bill - things like deductions for dependents, deductions for mortgage interest and other legal items available that allow you to legally reduce your tax bill. When you plan and choose to buy a house and borrow and deduct the interest payment you are using tax avoidance. |
Sure, but to go a little bit further. Who is to say what is avoidance and what is evasion. In Kuwait neither exist because there is no income tax or sales tax. In North Korea everything is tax. Everything you make is for the state. What if you are an American and don't like your tax dollars being spent on child-killing drones? Wouldn't is then be your moral duty to withhold those funds? Being from Canada, I don't like to pay taxes because my money ends up in the pockets of lazy welfare scum, overpaid civil servants and useless government programs.
I think Korea is better with what they do with taxes. They seem to be able to create remarkable things with relatively low percentages. However I think if I walked into my local tax office and declared that I make about 3,000,000won a month on privates and then asked how I can pay taxes on this, I would be shipped off for mental evaluation PDQ. Actually, for life insurance purposes, I wish I could officially record my income. But I can't. I'm certainly not going to ask mothers to sign receipts. |
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Carbon
Joined: 28 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: How much can you make in South Korea |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
You can [sic]negociate your salary if you have LEVERAGE. From your post, you seem to be a newbie with no experience and non-education related qualifications. That means you have zero leverage so [sic]neogicating conditions with a Hakwon (you cannot [sic]negociate with a PS as contracts are [sic]standardazied) will be hard. The [sic]negociation point was linked to the 2nd and 3rd year part of your wide open and under-informed question.
Good luck. |
Exactly. What do you bring to the negotiation? Many need to ask themselves this question. |
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thegadfly
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 10:35 pm Post subject: Re: How much can you make in South Korea |
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| Carbon wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
You can [sic]negociate your salary if you have LEVERAGE. From your post, you seem to be a newbie with no experience and non-education related qualifications. That means you have zero leverage so [sic]neogicating conditions with a Hakwon (you cannot [sic]negociate with a PS as contracts are [sic]standardazied) will be hard. The [sic]negociation point was linked to the 2nd and 3rd year part of your wide open and under-informed question.
Good luck. |
Exactly. What do you bring to the negotiation? Many need to ask themselves this question. |
Brit spelling, Carbon -- not as Sic as ya thought.... |
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PRagic
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| Over your first year, plan on banking about a grand (USD) a month. Anything more is gravy. Subtract from that any loan or debt payments, of course. Even back in the early 90s, most people I knew here were paying off their loans, taking a big trip on the way back to N. American, and leaving with about 10K after just two years or so. |
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millyfrend
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1k, well depending how big your student loan is. You might have nothing left over.
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| Over your first year, plan on banking about a grand (USD) a month. Anything more is gravy. Subtract from that any loan or debt payments, of course. Even back in the early 90s, most people I knew here were paying off their loans, taking a big trip on the way back to N. American, and leaving with about 10K after just two years or so. |
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RMNC
Joined: 21 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:08 am Post subject: |
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| T-J wrote: |
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This month I just nudged up to 6.6M Yeah, yeah
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That's a good start. Let us know when you start making real coin.
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We can't all work 80 hour weeks, T-J  |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 8:06 am Post subject: |
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| RMNC wrote: |
| T-J wrote: |
| FDNY wrote: |
This month I just nudged up to 6.6M Yeah, yeah
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That's a good start. Let us know when you start making real coin.
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We can't all work 80 hour weeks, T-J |
Yea, you got me. I do work for it. On the bright side we grossed about a million today. Make hay while the sun shines�or something like that �
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TECO
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:01 am Post subject: |
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| T-J wrote: |
| RMNC wrote: |
| T-J wrote: |
| FDNY wrote: |
This month I just nudged up to 6.6M Yeah, yeah
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That's a good start. Let us know when you start making real coin.
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We can't all work 80 hour weeks, T-J |
Yea, you got me. I do work for it. On the bright side we grossed about a million today. Make hay while the sun shines�or something like that �
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Nice! I know the money is out there, but one must be at least a little on the creative and lucky side to make a million won a day. Anyways, nice going! |
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siwawalter
Joined: 16 Feb 2011
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| Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Can you guys list how much money you can make with your qualifications? |
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