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Sick Day fiasco - taking away my vacation
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drdst122



Joined: 12 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:11 am    Post subject: Sick Day fiasco - taking away my vacation Reply with quote

Cliff Notes at the Bottom:

I woke up sick this morning and went into work and told them, before work even started that is. My director told me to go to the doctor, which I did.

I was informed I had tonsilitis and was given some medications. I went back to work find everyone was not there but out eating or doing something. I called the director who then told me talk to the Office Manager.

I talk to her and she says I have to work. I explain to her I'm incapable of working and I'm contagious and that I need to go home. I have 5 sick days in my contract and I've only used 1.

She then asked for a doctors note. I handed her what I thought was a doctors note but turns out it was just the prescription papers.

I ask her if I go back and get the doctors note will I be able to go. She says ok and there I go, already ticked off that she would actually make me do that when all she had to do was pick up the phone. So I go back to get a doctors note, and they say ok and put something in an envelope for me and on my way back I go.

I hand her the envelope and she opens it and tells me it's just receipts. At this point I'm ready to lose it. I say I don't speak Korean, I asked for a doctors note, this is what they gave me. Please give them a call.

She calls, they confirm I have tonsilitis and she says I still have to work. I argue with her and try to get it through her head that I'm contagious and incapable of teaching. We argue for a while until finally she just says to go. 10 minutes later, in the cab already on the way back to my house, she says that she is going to take one of my vacation days for this.

A co-worker of mine has confirmed that she already talked to the HQ's and they confirmed it.

What is my best course of action?

Cliff Notes:
-Sick, went to work.
-Told to go to doctor
-Go to doctor, have tonsilitis
-Lots of bickering about having to work
-Told to just go.
-Receive a call on way home that I'm being deducted a vacation day


Thanks for the responses...

gonna go cough up some more cool colors...
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rollo



Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: China

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

She is bluffing trying to bully you into working. Do not sweat this. Get well, take care of yourself. She should be ashamed! You have labor law on your side.
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tanklor1



Joined: 13 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 4:44 am    Post subject: Re: Sick Day fiasco - taking away my vacation Reply with quote

drdst122 wrote:
Cliff Notes at the Bottom:

I woke up sick this morning and went into work and told them, before work even started that is. My director told me to go to the doctor, which I did.

I was informed I had tonsilitis and was given some medications. I went back to work find everyone was not there but out eating or doing something. I called the director who then told me talk to the Office Manager.

I talk to her and she says I have to work. I explain to her I'm incapable of working and I'm contagious and that I need to go home. I have 5 sick days in my contract and I've only used 1.

She then asked for a doctors note. I handed her what I thought was a doctors note but turns out it was just the prescription papers.

I ask her if I go back and get the doctors note will I be able to go. She says ok and there I go, already ticked off that she would actually make me do that when all she had to do was pick up the phone. So I go back to get a doctors note, and they say ok and put something in an envelope for me and on my way back I go.

I hand her the envelope and she opens it and tells me it's just receipts. At this point I'm ready to lose it. I say I don't speak Korean, I asked for a doctors note, this is what they gave me. Please give them a call.

She calls, they confirm I have tonsilitis and she says I still have to work. I argue with her and try to get it through her head that I'm contagious and incapable of teaching. We argue for a while until finally she just says to go. 10 minutes later, in the cab already on the way back to my house, she says that she is going to take one of my vacation days for this.

A co-worker of mine has confirmed that she already talked to the HQ's and they confirmed it.

What is my best course of action?

Cliff Notes:
-Sick, went to work.
-Told to go to doctor
-Go to doctor, have tonsilitis
-Lots of bickering about having to work
-Told to just go.
-Receive a call on way home that I'm being deducted a vacation day


Thanks for the responses...

gonna go cough up some more cool colors...


Hmmm...I have a strong distaste for hogwan owners. The type of taste that you never forget. The type that would tell a shrew like this where to go.
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Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida



Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Not Korea

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Run at Midnight Laughing
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't sweat it, get well first.

One lesson I learned in the hagwon world, don't get sick.

If you feel sick, go to work anyway, cough up lots of yellowish-greenish phlemm on all who approach.

Drink lots of those Vit C drinky thingys... they do help if you take them regularly.
Ginger tea is good too.

Doesn't matter what the contract says, they will try and shaft you one way or another.
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drdst122



Joined: 12 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies!

This is a really big Hagwon that I haven't had any problems with for the 10 months I have been here.

What is my plan of action come Monday?
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bobbybigfoot



Joined: 05 May 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More scummy hagwon nonsense. Can't honor a simple contract.

On the plus side Op, at least you will get paid. Work where I work and a sick day costs you your days pay. Fortunately, I don't get sick enough to warrant missing work.
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oldtrafford



Joined: 12 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

koreans in the hogwon business are by and large the scum of the earth, if this idiot persists tell this piece of vermin you're taking more time off to go to the labour board. Oh, and don't sign another contract otherwise scum like this will never learn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You, fine sir, are insulting our intelligences with your use of 'Cliff Notes.'

For this reason I will pass on helping you. Ha!
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DaHu



Joined: 09 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you want a vacation, just use your sick days.
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MacLean



Joined: 14 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately public school contracts are nearly as bad. Gepik lures you in with 20 sick days a year. But just try using them. And if you are seriously sick and go to the hospital. When you return to school they know everything about your visit to the hospital. They've phoned the hospital and - in a fabulous example of doctor-patient confidentiality - the hospital has given the school all the details of what you're suffering from. That's horrendous enough, but anyone could phone the hospital and pretend to be your school, and they'd tell them everything.
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MacLean



Joined: 14 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately public school contracts are nearly as bad. Gepik lures you in with 20 sick days a year. But just try using them. And if you are seriously sick and go to the hospital. When you return to school they know everything about your visit to the hospital. They've phoned the hospital and - in a fabulous example of doctor-patient confidentiality - the hospital has given the school all the details of what you're suffering from. That's horrendous enough, but anyone could phone the hospital and pretend to be your school, and they'd tell them everything.
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nathanrutledge



Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MacLean wrote:
Unfortunately public school contracts are nearly as bad. Gepik lures you in with 20 sick days a year. But just try using them. And if you are seriously sick and go to the hospital. When you return to school they know everything about your visit to the hospital. They've phoned the hospital and - in a fabulous example of doctor-patient confidentiality - the hospital has given the school all the details of what you're suffering from. That's horrendous enough, but anyone could phone the hospital and pretend to be your school, and they'd tell them everything.


I've never had that problem. Yes, they've been hard-ons about me taking a sick day, but I've never had a problem with them calling the hospital/doctor. This could be because A) I don't tell them which hospital I'm going to and B) there were multiple doctors/hospitals around my house and school that I would switch between, so even if they DID try it, it wouldn't work.

Seriously though, if you make it very clear that you and only you should get your information, it shouldn't be a problem. Of course, anytime I have a serious problem, I go to a large, well known university hospital. They have some pretty high standards.

OP, get well, then use your vacation when you want to. Stick to your guns.
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drdst122



Joined: 12 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update:

I came in today and expected a full out war, but my director was sympathetic. She was very understanding and it was all the person underneath her that did all of this. Everything was taken care of.

She wants me to remain quiet and apologize to save face for the other persons position of "power." We'll see about that..

Anyways, as far as not divulging information, for public school that is, don't you need a doctor's note to get the sick day? I'm required to have it for my public school. Is it different for public?

Thanks again for all the support and responses.
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nathanrutledge



Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

drdst122 wrote:
Update:

I came in today and expected a full out war, but my director was sympathetic. She was very understanding and it was all the person underneath her that did all of this. Everything was taken care of.

She wants me to remain quiet and apologize to save face for the other persons position of "power." We'll see about that..

Anyways, as far as not divulging information, for public school that is, don't you need a doctor's note to get the sick day? I'm required to have it for my public school. Is it different for public?

Thanks again for all the support and responses.


Really depends on the contract and the school. The way my GEPIK contract is written, no, I don't need a note. I need to notify them within an hour of the school start time, and that's it. IF I take MORE than 3 days (I think it's 3), then I need a note.

I've never brought in a note for being sick (of course, over the time I've been here, I called in sick twice.) The first time I brought in my meds and the second time I actually had the school talk to the doctor (I thought I had flu during the swine flu epidemic - they said I should come in - I said I wouldn't be the dirty foreigner that got the clean, healthy children sick).

Just follow your contract and stick to your guns, politely. As it is, I'd just apologize (as it really doesn't mean anything) and then you win, they win, everyone is happy. Good on you!
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