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Murphy's Stout same as Murphy's Irish Stout?
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Sector7G



Joined: 24 May 2008

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:42 am    Post subject: Murphy's Stout same as Murphy's Irish Stout? Reply with quote

Okay so in honor of St. Patrick's Day I thought I would celebrate by drinking a nice pint of Guinness or two. The thing is I need to be careful with my funds as I am currently unemployed(I am back in the states). So I decided to buy some from the store and drink it at home instead of drinking at a pub, which was my preference.

Anyway, I ended up buying Murphy's Stout instead because a) I had never tried it before and like trying out new beers, and b)it was almost 3 bucks cheaper than Guinness for a 4-pack of 16oz draught style cans with the widget.

I gotta tell you, I was impressed. It is arguably as good as Guinness, and at least close enough that the cheaper cost makes it an easy decision. What do others think of it?

Anyway, the cans that I bought did not have the word Irish any where on them. But when I went to their website it was everywhere - on the cans, on the glasses, and on the clothes that they sold. Is it some kind of licensing agreement, or is it a different brew?

On another note, although I enjoyed my time in Korea, we all know how tough and/or expensive it is to get a decent beer over there. Now the only tough part is which one to choose. There is a pub near my house called World of Beer which has about every international beer you could think of, including about 25(at least) on tap. Actually two like that come to think of it, with nice places to sit outside and smoke a cigar too.

That is my beer report for the day. Comments on Murphy's (Irish) Stout are welcome. Cheers!
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DorkothyParker



Joined: 11 Apr 2009
Location: Jeju

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a restaurant (two actually) in my home city that also boasted hundreds of beers and one could procure a free "membership" and was rewarded with goodies for drinking them. (A cozy at 10, a bottle opener at 25, and eventually all the way up to a sweatshirt at 110).

I tried the Murphy's probably about 5 years ago. At the time, I was a huge fan of Guinness and was interested in what this slightly less-expensive Irish stout had to offer in comparison. I actually concluded the opposite of you. I found the texture was too thin and it lacked the richness of Guinness. Maybe it got some of the overtones right, but it still tasted like a watered-down version of the beer I considered my favorite at the time.

At this point, it would probably seem pretty good compared to most of the alternatives in Korea. Still, I have moved away from stouts in general (though I do enjoy them in the Winter) and default to more hoppy, IPAs and Belgian tripels (imitation ok).
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Ireland, I think its just called 'Murphy's'. Its not really popular in my part of Ireland but I hear its quite good. I'd recommend Smithwicks. Not a stout but really good.
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Binch Lover



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Murphy's is very popular in the south of Ireland, around the Cork area. It is actually more popular and prevalent there than Guinness. I've no idea about whether what you bought was the same, but I've found that I prefer Guinness. However, if Murphy's were available in Korea at a cheaper price than Guinness, I'd be lapping it up!
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offtheoche



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Murphys is really good, I prefer it to Guinness. There's also Beamish, which is the cheapest of the three, but imo not as good as the other two.

Stay away from Smithwicks (not a stout), it's truly awful and isn't popular in Ireland nowadays.
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Sinnerman



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will imbibe the occasional Guinness, but would much rather quaff a Kilkenny. Not a fan of Smithwick's.
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although it's not Irish, Mackeson's is a really nice stout.

Yeah, lately I've found myself no longer drawn to Guiness as I once was.

+1 to the Kilkenny. And +1 to "Booo Smithwick's"
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well obviously i disagree on which is better but I do like kilkenny also.

Smithwicks not being popular in ireland is irrelevant. It is still on draught in every pub I frequent and was still there when I was back home for xmas. After a quick look at wikipedia for something to back up my argument, I've found that Smithwicks has been
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has been awarded six gold medals in the Monde Selection Beer Tasting Competition


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smithwick%27s

I hope you all feel suitably chastened...
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offtheoche



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't really care what Mickey Mouse awards Smithwicks has won, I stand by my point, that it truly is pisswater. Maybe you're a lightweight, so that' s why you enjoy it?
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JMO



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

offtheoche wrote:
Don't really care what Mickey Mouse awards Smithwicks has won, I stand by my point, that it truly is pisswater. Maybe you're a lightweight, so that' s why you enjoy it?


You hit the nail on the head. I alternate shandys and glasses of smithwicks. A whole pint being too much.

Oh, how I envy the other men, with their steely eyes and purposeful jaws supping on their Murphys....truly the pride of Ireland.
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offtheoche



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JMO wrote:
I alternate shandys and glasses of smithwicks. A whole pint being too much.


Understood. I've met a lot of plastic paddies like yourself over here. Happy shandy drinking bud. Wink
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

offtheoche wrote:
JMO wrote:
I alternate shandys and glasses of smithwicks. A whole pint being too much.


Understood. I've met a lot of plastic paddies like yourself over here. Happy shandy drinking bud. Wink


Of course, we are all plastic paddies over here. But the question is...what the hell are you doing here? Shouldn't you be at home working the land of our forefathers, curting a sweet wee catholic lass and looking after your sainted mammy?
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nukeday



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If smithwick's is anything like Kilkenny (which i've only tried in Korea), i'd have to agree. Kinda flavorless. Definitely not worth the premium price in Itaewon.
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eamo



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The debate is kind of a non-starter because to my mind Guinness, Murphy's and Beamish taste anywhere from horrible to heaven depending where you buy a pint.

Many pubs/bartenders get these three drinks so wrong sometimes.......

I default to Guinness purely because it's the most commonly sold around the world.......but when in Ireland I'll happily gulp back Murphy's or Beamish.


I used to really like Smithwicks. It was my beer of choice until I went black (guinness) as we all know, once you go black, you can never go back!!

Kilkenny? I liked the taste.....and it's the strongest beer of the bunch...you really feel it after a few Kilkenny's.......but the slightly creamy texture tends to sicken me a little bit after, say, 3-4 pints. Creamy is fine for Stout, but I'm not so sure for ale.
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morrisonhotel



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
The debate is kind of a non-starter because to my mind Guinness, Murphy's and Beamish taste anywhere from horrible to heaven depending where you buy a pint.

Many pubs/bartenders get these three drinks so wrong sometimes.......


In my experience of working in the trade, it tends to be whoever is in charge of maintaining the standards of the beer who messes it up most. Don't get me wrong, there are swathes of incompetent bar staff, but it does tend to be poorly looked after beer that is the problem as being able to pour a proper pint requires little more than three brain cells. It's incredible how people who work, in particular, in pubs that specialise in real ale/real cider/what have you don't know their behind from their elbow when it comes to looking after beer. I'm going to ask to take over looking after the Guinness in my local because the owner of the place hasn't got a clue.

As to the above debate about Smithwicks, it's the worst thing on the planet for looking after. I've spent many a night in a cellar trying to fix all the problems with it. I'd like to open a pub some day. There's no way in hell I'd ever sell it.
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