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GEPIK ticket home 10 day clause - any way to work around it?

 
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lovebug



Joined: 29 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:29 pm    Post subject: GEPIK ticket home 10 day clause - any way to work around it? Reply with quote

hi eslcafe friends. has anyone had any experience trying to get GEPIK to allow a change in the return home part of the contract?
someone from GEPIK just sent out an email to emphasize that end of contract employees would only get a flight to their home country (no equivalency for anywhere else) and it must be within 10 days of their contract end. it's probably a response from a number of recent inquiries about requests for a change.
we're going to mongolia ~20 days after the contract ends...and it's only a one way flight. this would save GEPIK LOADS of money. it just seems like such a waste to have this one way to the UK that won't be used at all. the mongolia flight won't be too much, especially bc it's one way, but it would be nice if GEPIK reimbursed us.
i know this 10day/home country thing is stated it in the contract, which is why we don't have much of a case. plus that email sounded pretty definitive and inflexible.

if anyone has any constructive suggestions on how to convince GEPIK to pay for our mongolia flight instead.....
thanks! hope you're having a great weekend.
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blm



Joined: 11 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't it be possible to get arround this without involving Gepik.

Does Gepik pay you or the airline?

Does Gepik book your flight?

In Korea you can book a flight (and cancel it) without paying anything and use that too show GEPIK how much your flight cost and that you are complying with the contract.

After getting the money then do whatever you want. If they pay the Airline then just make sure you book a flexible fare.
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lovebug



Joined: 29 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

from doing research with the search function on here, it sounds like they usually reimburse you a month after you arrive back in your home country, and they check the flight to make sure it landed and was not canceled before they send it to you.
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dory



Joined: 27 May 2010

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they do. I was told they check with immigration after you've landed in your home AIRPORT (for those of you trying to go elsewhere in your home country) they will reimburse you within the month.
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debinoxford



Joined: 10 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this clause is terrible. I'm completely screwed out of my finishing flight because I'm not moving back to my home country. I'm moving to a different country instead, which I consider home, but my passport does not. Idiotic.

I think it would be better to set a limit on how much they can refund you for whatever flight you take. That would make more sense.
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lovebug



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aigo! so is there NO way of getting around this???
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gogophoto



Joined: 20 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dory wrote:
they do. I was told they check with immigration after you've landed in your home AIRPORT (for those of you trying to go elsewhere in your home country) they will reimburse you within the month.


Ppppffft! Think about it--can they actually tell if you actually land at the actual airport? Who is it that is checking? Do they even have the authority? I think they just want to save money by not giving you a ticket since you aren't returning immediately. Also, because there may be paperwork THEY have to fill out, and since no NET is from Mongolia, they can't fill out the paperwork. Now, have you tried explaining this to them? My friend who just finished up two years at his GEPIK school got a flight to San Francisco instead of his hometown of Kansas City. Probably because he IS going back to the US and they are paying for him to return home. And it is cheaper.

So, if you have explained that you plan on traveling and that they could just pay for that ticket and save themselves money, and they still refuse, well there isn't anything contractually that you can do. But you CAN tell them, okay Mongolia is out. Make them pay for your ticket home. Go to Mongolia anyway. Don't tell them this. That's what you can do if you want to be a dick. In all fairness, you DID read and sign the contract before getting the job (you DID read the contract before getting the job, didn't you?).
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L&MaC's



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dory wrote:
I was told they check with immigration after you've landed in your home AIRPORT (for those of you trying to go elsewhere in your home country) they will reimburse you within the month.


That was told to you regarding the "Pension payment"

With Gepik, Epik, SMOE, you can fly to any country you want - doesn't have to be your home country.
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gogophoto



Joined: 20 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

L&MaC's wrote:
dory wrote:
I was told they check with immigration after you've landed in your home AIRPORT (for those of you trying to go elsewhere in your home country) they will reimburse you within the month.


That was told to you regarding the "Pension payment"

With Gepik, Epik, SMOE, you can fly to any country you want - doesn't have to be your home country.


Incorrect, as far as the wording of the GEPIK contract. Article 10, paragraph 7:

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7. If the Employee completes the term of employment without the intention to renew and leaves Korea within ten (10) days from the contract completion date, the Employer shall provide the airfare for the Employee's one-way return flight to the Employee's home country either in the form of reimbursement or direct purchase. If the Employee does not leave Korea within ten (10) days from the contract date then the airfare for the Employee's one-way return flight to the Employee's home country will not be provided.


Only if you are leaving within 10 days of the completion of your contract AND you are returning to your home country will GEPIK provide airfare. This is a matter they discussed in detail at the GEPIK orientation in October. Now, maybe a particular school is willing to negotiate, but that's what the contract says.
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lovebug



Joined: 29 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, so it definitely seems like gepik has no authority to check to see if the flight you bought is actually the flight you landed home with.
who actually reimburses you? GEPIK or do they provide your school with the money and they put it in your bank account? is it a home bank account?
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gogophoto



Joined: 20 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lovebug wrote:
ok, so it definitely seems like gepik has no authority to check to see if the flight you bought is actually the flight you landed home with.
who actually reimburses you? GEPIK or do they provide your school with the money and they put it in your bank account? is it a home bank account?


I have not yet gone through the process, but I DO know somebody who has done the following: book a refundable ticket back to where they are from; get reimbursed (this happens before you leave the country); cancel the ticket (likely paying a cancellation fee), and go to the place you REALLY wanted to go. It ain't perfect, but it has been done.
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seoulsucker



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So basically, one of the larger programs designed to improve English education in Korea is encouraging experienced teachers to GTFO as soon as they complete their contracts. That's awesome.
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lovebug



Joined: 29 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SMOE/EPIK doesn't have it, so i don't see why GEPIK needs to do it.

i would assume that this clause is the result of some sort of bureaucratic algorithm that was based on any inconvenience or difficulty GEPIK experienced with teachers leaving in the past...
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jacksthirty



Joined: 30 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do they only reimburse you if you fly with Korean Air? You could buy a ticket that went via somewhere, for example Cathay Pacific, Vietnam Airlines. Thai Airways and then not travel on to your home country. I know that doesn't exactly get you to Mongolia, but it will get you to SE Asia.
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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seoulsucker wrote:
So basically, one of the larger programs designed to improve English education in Korea is encouraging experienced teachers to GTFO as soon as they complete their contracts. That's awesome.


That's GEPIK for you.
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