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Another question related to teaching -- sick days
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thegadfly



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MacLean wrote:
Last year my friend broke his knee. Tripped over a broken piece of Korean sidewalk. His knee swelled up like a melon. Got out his cellphone and called a friend who met him in a taxi, and took him to the hospital. Doctor confirmed that he had broken his knee, and that he should keep off it for the next ten days. In excruciating pain he went home.

Next morning he phoned his public school and relayed the information. The principle would have none of it. He demanded that he come into work. "If you can make it to the hospital you can make it into work." He stood his ground and insisted on the sick days offered in his contract. After returning to work he was given the ice treatment. Two months later his contract was not renewed. The reason: bad work ethic. Rolling Eyes


Didin't you mean, "Like a typical foreigner with his head stuck up his bum, he didn't look where he was going and tripped."

You hate Korea -- we get it -- but come ON -- the broken sidewalk is NOT about Korea. You just didn't walk as much in your home country to notice sidewalks, or lack thereof....

P.S. My absurd attack on foreingers was intended to point out MacLean's absurd attack on sidewalks' nationality, and may not reflect my actual views. I have known many foreigners that do not suffer from cranio-rectal translocation....
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lichtarbeiter



Joined: 15 Nov 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Taking sick days is WEAK. NYC girl mentioned taking *7* in her first year. I think that is insane. If you're that sick that often you should go live in a hospital or something.


You don't know her, and you don't know why she needed those sick days. Frankly it's none of your business. Quit being a judgmental douche-bag.

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When I HAVE been sick, I've gone to work every time. Without fail.


Wow, you are just the bee's knees. If you want to impress us even more, tell us about how you've declined paid housing and airfare since you're so concerned about your boss' business.


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If you can get to the hospital, you can get to class.


Well, duh. Do you know why people call in sick? It's not the walking to and from work that poses the main obstacle, it's the 8-9 hours in between.


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(1) I'm not a selfrighteous 'entitled' pusssy.


Sorry for feeling entitled to things that my contract entitles me to. Rolling Eyes


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(2) It's bad for my students or my boss's business.


If taking a sick day hurts my boss' business, that's his problem, not mine. My contract stipulates that I'm entitled up to 5 days of sick leave. My boss had as much time as he needed to read the contract. My boss had the opportunity to object to any clause of the contract that he had a problem with before signing it. My boss signed the contract as it was. If my boss suddenly realizes he doesn't have a Plan B to cover a sick day (which he approved by signing the contract) and his business suffers, that simply shows that he is irresponsible and not worthy of anyone's sympathy. He simply needs to grow up and learn how to manage a business.

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I've been at a university for the last 4 years and my duty is to my students.. if I'm sick I should still go.. it'd mess up my syllabus if I didn't =)


I can remember several times when I was going to university where a professor called in sick and the class was canceled. My professors never seemed to have any difficulties making the necessary adjustments and getting through the course. Perhaps you could improve the planning of your courses to accommodate any unexpected class cancellations?

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Just because you have a cold (NO, you DON'T have 'the flu!'') doesn't mean you can't go to work. COWBOY UP.


If I don't want to go to work when I'm sick, and I don't have to go to work when I'm sick (as stipulated in my contract), why the hell would I go to work when I'm sick? To share my infection with my coworkers? Rolling Eyes
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lichtarbeiter,

You make valid points regarding the fact that if sick days are in your contract it is your right to take them. Not much can be debated there.

You make a decent point about administration being responsible to replace sick teachers if they hand out sick days as part of their contracts.

However, not showing up to work because you have a cold is very different from staying home because you have the Flu or a more severe ailment.

There are choices made and these need to be weighed with your obligations to your students. Being a teacher, even if this seems to go ver the head of many people, means you have a duty to your students.

University classes are a different kettle of fish than elementary, middle school or high school classes...cancelling a university lecture has far less impact on the students. No sub is needed in such a case.

In the case of young learners, its a different story.

If you have a light cold, do youself a favor and go in to teach. Then go home after work and hit the sack early. Keep hydrated during the day and surely you can survive through the challenge of working with a cold...

Another point that people seem to miss: sure you have say 5 sick days. Would it not be WISER to keep these days for times when you may be seriously ill?

Wasting a couple of sick days to stay home because you have a cold may come and bite you in the rear end down the road when you get REALLY sick and actually need those sick days....
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siwawalter



Joined: 16 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for feedbacks.

oldtrafford wrote:
I don't think you're getting this last poster. When you're sick, you can't do favours. I got a cold once, a cold like had never had before, I was at the docs. for four days straight getting pupped full of antibiotics, I could barely move let alone work, nor want too!!!!!!!!!!!
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MacLean



Joined: 14 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thegadfly wrote:
MacLean wrote:
Last year my friend broke his knee. Tripped over a broken piece of Korean sidewalk. His knee swelled up like a melon. Got out his cellphone and called a friend who met him in a taxi, and took him to the hospital. Doctor confirmed that he had broken his knee, and that he should keep off it for the next ten days. In excruciating pain he went home.

Next morning he phoned his public school and relayed the information. The principle would have none of it. He demanded that he come into work. "If you can make it to the hospital you can make it into work." He stood his ground and insisted on the sick days offered in his contract. After returning to work he was given the ice treatment. Two months later his contract was not renewed. The reason: bad work ethic. Rolling Eyes


Didin't you mean, "Like a typical foreigner with his head stuck up his bum, he didn't look where he was going and tripped."

You hate Korea -- we get it -- but come ON -- the broken sidewalk is NOT about Korea. You just didn't walk as much in your home country to notice sidewalks, or lack thereof....

P.S. My absurd attack on foreingers was intended to point out MacLean's absurd attack on sidewalks' nationality, and may not reflect my actual views. I have known many foreigners that do not suffer from cranio-rectal translocation....


Sorry, you're right. What was I thinking? The condition of Korean sidewalks could never be a factor in someone tripping or falling in Korea. Rolling Eyes
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MacLean wrote:

Sorry, you're right. What was I thinking? The condition of Korean sidewalks could never be a factor in someone tripping or falling in Korea. Rolling Eyes

I quite like the fact that Korea isnt baby-proofed for litigious adults.

Maybe my age showing, but I remember when people everywhere had to actually watch where they were going & blamed themselves if they tripped.
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NYC_Gal 2.0



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So either look down at the pavement, or look up to make sure you aren't elbowed by some rushing ajossi.

I've tripped wearing sneakers. I was looking, but one of the stones was loose. The pavement here is a joke.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote:
So either look down at the pavement, or look up to make sure you aren't elbowed by some rushing ajossi.

I've tripped wearing sneakers. I was looking, but one of the stones was loose. The pavement here is a joke.


Still that is part of life, not something to get worked up over.

Good grief, we are talking about tripping here!

I am with schwa on this one, when did tripping become something other than a person having a slip.

Next up: blame the government for ice on the roads in the winter...its their fault cold freezes water and leads to people slipping. Laughing
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