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kcs0001 · Joined: 24 Jul 2005

Yeah, how about that diversity...

Can you imagine what would have happened if a white attorney general said this? I guess that pretty much puts to rest that race is a social construct.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerstein/0311/Eric_Holder_Black_Panther_case_focus_demeans_my_people.html

Attorney General Eric Holder finally got fed up Tuesday with claims that the Justice Department went easy in a voting rights case against members of the New Black Panther Party because they are African American.

Holder's frustration over the criticism became evident during a House Appropriations subcommittee hearing as Rep. John Culberson (R-Texas) accused the Justice Department of failing to cooperate with a Civil Rights Commission investigation into the handling of the 2008 incident in which Black Panthers in intimidating outfits and wielding a club stood outside a polling place in Philadelphia.

The Attorney General seemed to take personal offense at a comment Culberson read in which former Democratic activist Bartle Bull called the incident the most serious act of voter intimidation he had witnessed in his career.

"Think about that," Holder said. "When you compare what people endured in the South in the 60s to try to get the right to vote for African Americans, and to compare what people were subjected to there to what happened in Philadelphia�which was inappropriate, certainly that�to describe it in those terms I think does a great disservice to people who put their lives on the line, who risked all, for my people," said Holder, who is black.

Holder noted that his late sister-in-law, Vivian Malone Jones, helped integrate the University of Alabama.

"To compare that kind of courage, that kind of action, and to say that the Black Panther incident wrong thought it might be somehow is greater in magnitude or is of greater concern to us, historically, I think just flies in the face of history and the facts.," Holder said with evident exasperation.

In a series of questions and comments earlier in the hearing, Culberson insisted that race had infected the decision-making process. "There�s clearly evidence, overwhelming evidence, that your Department of Justice refuses to protect the rights of anybody other than African Americans to vote," the Texas Republican said. "There's a pattern of a double standard here."

�I would disagree very vehemently with the notion that there�s overwhelming evidence that that is in fact true,� Holder replied. �This Department of Justice does not enforce the law in a race-conscious way.�

Rep. Chaka Fattah, a Democrat from Philadelphia, said the Black Panthers "should not have been there." But he said the GOP was making too much out of a fleeting incident involving a couple of people.

"The most unethical thing a person can do is make allegations based on absolutely nothing," Fattah said. "The only issue of race is singling out this particular decision...That this rises to national significance is bogus on its face."

UPDATE: This post has been updated with minor changes to the syntax of some quotes.

caniff · Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map

Kuros · Joined: 27 Apr 2004

His people are the American people. The sooner Holder learns that the less he'll get rattled and embarrassed by trolling Congressmen.

Anyway, poppycock and codswallop on Holder for thinking that the Black Panthers intimidating voters in Philadelphia fails to rise to national attention as long as he thinks Oakland, California's desire to tax marijuana dispensaries merits criminal and civil penalties.

Holder is as much a part of the old boy network as anyone else.

caniff · Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map

methdxman · Joined: 14 Sep 2010

White people complaining about racism yet again. HEY MAN! That's racist! Everything's racist!

Oh just shutup for god's sake.

Wah wah! Koreans are racist! Hey don't say that! That's racist!

Charon · Joined: 14 Dec 2010

Ah yes, Brotha Eric in effect CONDONING what those nutjobs did in Philly with the tried-and-true playing of that old time gospel favorite of Yeah well, so what if these guys DID actually commit something right on par and well-worthy of their white Keep Kansas Klean Brethren? It's inherently justifiable by this AG because of what ma peeps historically went through!

And one would think that the use of the inclusive term "people" by the Attorney General of the United States would refer to the AMERICAN people, and NOT solely and EXCLUSIVELY a particular RACE of people.

Imagine if this had been the KKK at that polling booth in Philadelphia and John Ashcroft had just sort of summarily dismissed it as some kind of insult to "his people."

Think there would have been a media uproar?

Is there wheat in Kansas?

Way to foster that National Unity across Racial lines there, Eric!

Race Card! Don't leave home without it! Wink

mises · Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired

http://dailycaller.com/2011/03/21/critics-contend-assistant-attorney-general-loretta-king-guided-more-by-racial-politics-than-the-law/

As whites move into a minority position, how is the state going to treat them?

geldedgoat · Joined: 05 Mar 2009

Menino80 · Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Location: Hodor?

Tell you what, when the Black Panthers have their hooks in every major political organ of a huge region of the country for multiple generations, then we can start making comparisons.

Is what they did in Phillie criminal? Sure.

But the amount of attention it gets from the wingnutters is telling. Dog whistles are out in full force today.

geldedgoat · Joined: 05 Mar 2009

Menino80 · Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Location: Hodor?

geldedgoat · Joined: 05 Mar 2009

Menino80 · Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Location: Hodor?

I never said that. You cannot compare the Black Panthers to the KKK, the KKK did much worse for much longer, with much more support from the local government.

mises · Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired

The problem is not what the Panthers did. The problem is the government response, and what that reveals about the Balkan future Americans are walking into.

Menino80 · Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Location: Hodor?

It reveals no such thing. It's a minor case with absolutely no legs as voter intimidation is almost impossible to prove.

The fact that a black guy is an executive of a dept or govt is still a tough pill to swallow for Boomers.

Holder's comments were completely justified. When white people go through three hundred years of systemic brualization, forcible repatriation, change their language, religion, and surnames, then they can get a pass for using parochial terms such as "my people". Black identity underwent an attempt of total obliteration for three centuries that didn't' get rolled back until the Civil Rights Act. And no, one generation is not enough. Sorry.

When a black says "my people", my first thought is to roll my eyes and say "come on", but when I hear white guys like you winners on this board getting truly upset and fearful about it (BALKANIZATION? GIVE ME A TRUCKING BREAK), I understand why that black guy says things like that, even though it annoys the !*!& of me.

I was born raised and live on the South Side of Chicago, please don't try to tell me "what its like" out there for race relations or the future of "white America", I see it every day.