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Privateer



Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is Western society really all that tolerant of fat people? Fat people get looked down upon and insulted quite a bit, especially among kids.
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Ruthdes



Joined: 16 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

meh...this topic has been recycled so many times on this forum and there's never anything new to say.

I'm more interested in those injections in the clip. They looked nasty! The technician seemed to getting some kind of enjoyment from the stabbing motion.

The comments about exercise are probably right in that woman's case though. A BMI of less than 19, but higher fat proportion than average (not that they said how much higher, or what the average is), would generally indicate that some exercise is in order, surely?

Another thing, in Australia, a "normal" BMI is between 20 and 25, but here it's between 18.5-23 (or whatever it was). Is it the same in the other English speaking countries?
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Quack Addict



Joined: 31 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't it be easier to get new friends than go through surgery? That girl was under weight and her narcasisitc friends say she was 'thick'. ha ha ha...come to America and you will see thick, honey!
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why have a six pack when you can have a keg?
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DorkothyParker



Joined: 11 Apr 2009
Location: Jeju

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruthdes wrote:


I'm more interested in those injections in the clip. They looked nasty! The technician seemed to getting some kind of enjoyment from the stabbing motion.


I know, right. It's lipolysis. I've looked into it. A month of treatments in one area (I think two arms counts as one area) will run about 400K, it seems.

I want to have it done on my flabby upperarms if losing 5% body fat doesn't do the trick. (PS. No one tell me to lift weights because a. I do and b. all that does is push out the fat more. I've had cellulite there since I was like 10!)
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highstreet



Joined: 13 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DorkothyParker wrote:
Ruthdes wrote:


I'm more interested in those injections in the clip. They looked nasty! The technician seemed to getting some kind of enjoyment from the stabbing motion.


I know, right. It's lipolysis. I've looked into it. A month of treatments in one area (I think two arms counts as one area) will run about 400K, it seems.

I want to have it done on my flabby upperarms if losing 5% body fat doesn't do the trick. (PS. No one tell me to lift weights because a. I do and b. all that does is push out the fat more. I've had cellulite there since I was like 10!)


How long have you been lifting weights for?
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DorkothyParker



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha
Not like I'm a weightlifter, but I did it for 6 months last year until I got pissed at the gym because I was killing myself and still fat. And then this year only since the start of the year. I'm not talking benching or what have you. Just some 5 kg weights and videos for instruction.
The muscle is all up under the fat and this area just doesn't want to change. It's so pale and lumpy and sad. Sad

Again, working to improve my overall BFP and REALLY hoping this shrinks! qq
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highstreet



Joined: 13 Nov 2010

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DorkothyParker wrote:
haha
Not like I'm a weightlifter, but I did it for 6 months last year until I got pissed at the gym because I was killing myself and still fat. And then this year only since the start of the year. I'm not talking benching or what have you. Just some 5 kg weights and videos for instruction.
The muscle is all up under the fat and this area just doesn't want to change. It's so pale and lumpy and sad. Sad

Again, working to improve my overall BFP and REALLY hoping this shrinks! qq


This is why. And probably your diet.
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RMNC



Joined: 21 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You lose fat but gain muscle. You can't trust the scale, only the mirror.

Also, 5kg is pretty pathetic. You lift more than that just standing up when you get out of bed. Move up to 10kg weights. It's not THAT heavy.
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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe she's talking about dumbells per arm. If that's the case, it's a good size for a woman who wants to tone. At my fittest, I was using 6kg per arm. Women don't bulk up like men do, for the most part. It's very different from using a machine, as you should know. On a machine, I used far more weight and both arms. Free weights are much more effective, though, as you probably know.

As for just standing up, of course your legs use much heavier weights than your arms. She made it clear that she was talking about her arms.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the part when the guy said "If a dish looks good, it probably tastes good" Laughing

Too bad, I'd like to tell him that lots of dishes look good here, yet taste like $#!T

I also love how Korea is okay with capitalizing on the self-loathing nature of 80% of its young women. 파이팅!
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DorkothyParker



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote:
I believe she's talking about dumbells per arm. If that's the case, it's a good size for a woman who wants to tone.


^ this.

highstreet: My flabby arms have little to do with my diet. At least, not as an adult. This is a difficult area for many women to tone and they are covered in cellulite and fat and are rather big (I think) considering my healthy mid-range BFP of 22%. Again, I am hoping when I am a size 0/2, my arms will follow suit.
If not, I will definitely look into medical intervention.
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RMNC



Joined: 21 Jul 2010

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is literally impossible to "tone" one area of your body and it's a myth perpetrated by As-Seen-On-TV gimmick equipment. The only way to lose your flabby arms is to lose fat, which only comes off of your body from all over, not one area at once.

It has EVERYTHING to do with your diet. People's focus should be on lowering your overall bodyfat %, not "toning" one area.
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Bloopity Bloop



Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RMNC wrote:
It is literally impossible to "tone" one area of your body and it's a myth perpetrated by As-Seen-On-TV gimmick equipment. The only way to lose your flabby arms is to lose fat, which only comes off of your body from all over, not one area at once.

It has EVERYTHING to do with your diet. People's focus should be on lowering your overall bodyfat %, not "toning" one area.


So true.

Trying to tone a certain area when you have fat in other places is a waste of time.

Your body loses fat from different places on your bodies in a certain order.
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Ruthdes



Joined: 16 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RMNC wrote:
It is literally impossible to "tone" one area of your body and it's a myth perpetrated by As-Seen-On-TV gimmick equipment. The only way to lose your flabby arms is to lose fat, which only comes off of your body from all over, not one area at once.

It has EVERYTHING to do with your diet. People's focus should be on lowering your overall bodyfat %, not "toning" one area.

This is very true, and is one of the reasons people resort to medical interventions. I lost a lot of weight a few years back (which I have written about on this forum before), and became very skinny above the waist (as in ribs sticking out, many people telling me I was too skinny), but below the waist, I was far from having a flat stomach, and I retained the wide hips and thighs that are my genetic legacy. It's enough to make anyone look at medical intervention. I just have a moral problem with paying someone to make me look like what the media/society says I should look like, when that's obviously not how my body was made. If anyone has any advice about losing fat off my lower half, without looking anorexic on my upper half, I'd love to hear it. (FYI, I do 30 minutes of hard cardio at least 4 times a week, plus a fair wack of heavy-for-a-woman weights at least twice a week)
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