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meeting with co-teachers, need to vent
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silkhighway



Joined: 24 Oct 2010
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sadguy wrote:
silkhighway wrote:
You know what, screw them. IF you feel the criticism was constructive ,then take some of it, but if not, don't worry about it and chalk them up to being chatty **disturbers.

People give their co-teachers way too much credit. They're *just* teachers. They're not your bosses, and they're definitely not the ministers of immigration and education rolled into one.


life would be easier if i could just think "screw them." but, i have to work with them, eat out with them, play the work politics game with them.



I see what you're saying and it's definitely better to stay on good terms with your co-teachers, but you have to accept your limits. They have their own agendas and their own weaknesses. You can't accomodate everybody. Just like the cliche, you can please some people some of the time but you can't please everyone all of the time.

If the head teacher expresses concern, listen to them and work with them. If the co-teachers offer constructive feedback, then be openminded about it. Basically continue to work with them in a professional setting. You don't have to like each other, but you have to work together. Other than if I were you, I'd just keep plugging away doing what you have always done and ignore the henpecking.
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sadguy



Joined: 13 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

see, this is the thing i'm confused about. i get along with the co teachers. one of the new ones even told me we should go out and eat and have a beer sometime after the meeting was over. i thought the meeting wasn't negative at all. it's only what that one co-teacher, jen, said that got me frazzled.

i don't see why jen would lie, so there must be some truth to it.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

op, take her out to one of those love motels. problem solved! Razz
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MacLean



Joined: 14 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked at a dreadful Gepik school a few years back. They stole my overtime pay in a dozen different ways. I estimated they stole about 3 million from me in overtime over one year. The useless twits at the Gepik office wouldn't lift a finger to help me. On top of that my co-teacher (female) was a nightmare. We didn't get along at all. And she did nothing to help me recover my monies. I left that school and told the co-teacher that, overall, my experience at that school (compared to my previous school) had been very negative and that I was pleased to be leaving.

Anyway, I went to a different school. Halfway through the year we got some new teachers, including one from the previous school. Although I liked my new school, my contract was not renewed at the end of the year. I suspect the reason was the teacher from my old school told my new school a lot of horseshit about me. If I left my previous school with an expressed grievance it was because they stole 3m won from me. Now, in all likelihood, my old co-teacher was rubbing salt in the wound by filling the new teacher's ear with falsehoods about me. This nonsense was then passed on to my new co-teacher, which was then circulated around the school. "MacLean teacher is trouble. When we stole his overtime every week he complained. He trouble teacher. He takes out contract, and contacts Gepik office to complain. Not understanding foreigner of Korea culture." Korea can be rather incestuous that way. You have a disagreement and it's always the foreigner that gets the blame. They love to gossip about us.
That's for sure.

I feel for you dude.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say, reverse it.

YOU call a meeting.

YOU offer them coffee, snacks, and be gentle and patient until they ALL show up.

then YOU ask if they have a problem with how you teach. Smile, but keep a serious demeanor. Stay silent until someone speaks up or they say 'no problem'.

Problem solved
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sadguy



Joined: 13 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MacLean wrote:
I worked at a dreadful Gepik school a few years back. They stole my overtime pay in a dozen different ways. I estimated they stole about 3 million from me in overtime over one year. The useless twits at the Gepik office wouldn't lift a finger to help me. On top of that my co-teacher (female) was a nightmare. We didn't get along at all. And she did nothing to help me recover my monies. I left that school and told the co-teacher that, overall, my experience at that school (compared to my previous school) had been very negative and that I was pleased to be leaving.

Anyway, I went to a different school. Halfway through the year we got some new teachers, including one from the previous school. Although I liked my new school, my contract was not renewed at the end of the year. I suspect the reason was the teacher from my old school told my new school a lot of horseshit about me. If I left my previous school with an expressed grievance it was because they stole 3m won from me. Now, in all likelihood, my old co-teacher was rubbing salt in the wound by filling the new teacher's ear with falsehoods about me. This nonsense was then passed on to my new co-teacher, which was then circulated around the school. "MacLean teacher is trouble. When we stole his overtime every week he complained. He trouble teacher. He takes out contract, and contacts Gepik office to complain. Not understanding foreigner of Korea culture." Korea can be rather incestuous that way. You have a disagreement and it's always the foreigner that gets the blame. They love to gossip about us.
That's for sure.

I feel for you dude.


what was their excuse not to re-sign you?

i spoke to the head co-teacher today. she said she the new teachers are comparing me to their previous foreign teachers and think i need to do more speaking activities. she said she didn't have a problem with me at all, but that when it comes to re-signing me, she has to consider everyone's opinions.

then i spoke to jen, and she is telling me how this rumor was started by another non-english teacher from some other school. and the rumor was that i was a bad teacher and that the students don't like me and that i wouldn't be able to be re-signed in any of the schools in my district because my reputation is that bad. how ridiculous, a teacher who has never met me is spreading crap about me.

how would any teachers outside of my school know anything about me? possibly from the open class that my co-teacher had last year. it was the worst lesson ever and she made the lesson plan. it was pretty much 90% of her teaching everything, and then 10% of me at the end. other teachers from the district were there to watch and probably think bad of me because of that crappy lesson that i didn't even design. ridiculous.

it pisses me off and makes me feel dirty to be involved with all this back talking.
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daxdefranco



Joined: 04 Jul 2009
Location: chipyeong-dong, gwangju

PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThingsComeAround wrote:
I'd say, reverse it.

YOU call a meeting.

YOU offer them coffee, snacks, and be gentle and patient until they ALL show up.

then YOU ask if they have a problem with how you teach. Smile, but keep a serious demeanor. Stay silent until someone speaks up or they say 'no problem'.

Problem solved


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