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kiwiboy_nz_99



Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Man, you need to gets you some chuuuuuuurch boy !!

There's nothing wrong with church, but to call it "exciting" must be stretching things, even for a devout believer.

Now, a southern baptist church might be different, all that saaaaaangin' might really cause the spirit to move within me.

Lord a'mercy I feel a healin' comin' on ...
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The Lemon



Joined: 11 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eazy_E wrote:
Try asking them to talk about something specific, the more controversial the better. The Japanese occupation, military service, selective abortions, etc. I don't have adult students but those are the first things I would try. I like to see people get all het up.

Danger! Danger! As much as I've enjoyed provoking/stirring up "controversies", it's a risky thing to do with adult Korean students. Let's break them down- abortions = sex (that's taboo for many Korean adults); military service = negative aspect of being Korean (another verboten); Japanese occupation - maybe, but it won't be controversial... a whole class will agree the Japanese are evil. Mention the facts that MANY Koreans collaborated, and you'll find the temperature in the room rapidly chill.

With SOME students you can do these topics. But adult conversation classes -particularly free talking ones - are fraught with topical landmines left and right. And they'll blow up in either a classroom fight, and/or students withdrawing from the class.

Finally, the students need to have a reasonably high ability to discuss these topics. If that ability isn't good, the conversation goes nowhere. Students can't explain their thoughts, and they can't understand what you and others are saying. It's a very LOOONNNNGGGGG class.
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Eazy_E



Joined: 30 Oct 2003
Location: British Columbia, Canada

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough. I've never taught adults as I mentioned, so I'm sure the dynamic is totally different than teaching children. With the children all I have to do is say "what present do you want for your birthday" to get them confused and frustrated.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, Kiwi, you might try to teach a foreign language to Americans, Canadians or any other people who speak English as their native tongue, and see just how many are similar to Korean students.

I took French in high school, and many students were the same. They only took it because you need X number of years of a (useless) foreign language to get into college. They just got a good grade on oral and written tests and moved on.
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rollieboy



Joined: 10 Feb 2004
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 3:57 am    Post subject: Re: Plain old lies .... Reply with quote

kiwiboy_nz_99 wrote:
I teach uni, and I see each class just once a week. Every time I see them I ask, "So how was your week, did you do anything interesting?" No response. So then I say "Well, if someone doesn't volunteer I'm going to pick someone to tell me ALL about thier weekend" No response. Then I pick someone "What did you do on the weekend" ... answer "Study" I give up ...


You are obviously still under the impression that your presence in the classroom counts for something. I wouldn't want to talk to some nosey foreigner speaking mangled English either if I was Korean.
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