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kingssurfer
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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 Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:10 am Post subject: My Official After School Thread |
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Recently a lot of you have been pming me about my after school program. I know I said to pm me if you want more specifics, but a lot of you that do pm ask me questions that I had already answered in this thread.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=200861&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
I am sorry to say this, but I get a little annoyed when you ask me questions that I have already answered in my threads. Maybe you don�t read them.
I have gotten a lot of pms from people, and I don�t have time to answer all of them so I have decided to make my official answers to all your questions thread here. Only pm if you want the companies contact info. I can�t speak for the other after school programs, just this one
I'll start with
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1. My company does not hire gyopos, and if you are Asian, they most likely won't hire you either. I know it absolutely sucks, but that is the way it is.
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2. Do they typically provide housing, as usual?
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I don't know about the others, but mine provides 500,000 for housing. They also let me choose between three apartments. They provide 5million won for key money.
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| 3. And do they operate during the public school break times (summer and winter breaks) |
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Yes, they do, but my overtime schedule is 9-3:15, and, of course, that is one million times better than the 9-7 hagwon ot I have worked. One month of 9-315 in August, one month of 9-3:15 in January,and one week of it during the public schools spring break(February). It's really not bad at all.
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4. Also, do you happen to know if your program will be needing anyone this April? Okay so people want to know when my company hires. I am just an employee of the company so I am not alway going to know. I just knew they needed teachers at the start of the school year. Now, I have no idea. That's my companies job, not mine.
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5 So do they generally prefer applicants who are already in Korea?
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Yes, I am sure. I was an in country hire, and they didn't have to pay a recruiting fee for me either. They do not provide airfare either.
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| 6 if you can pretty much teach what you want, how do you decide what material is best to use? Are after-school programs divided into grade levels or..? |
At the end of every 3 month semester, you and your Korean co teacher decide what books and materials to use for the coming semester, and often times that involves a trip to the book store. You determine which books and materials are suitable for each class level.
Since you work in a public school, you will only be teaching the kids from the public (elementary) school you work at. (Grades 1-6). The classes are divided into levels according to each student's ability. Sometimes you will have a second grader in a class with sixth graders.
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7 Some of them were notorious for having foreigners open two bank accounts so they could avoid paying taxes.
I'm curious to know if that's still happening.
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I am sure it is, but not at mine.
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8 Just wondering with the after school programs if you have to grade papers and do a lot for prep? Some of the positions I'm seeing advertised say the hours are close to 6 or 7.How long are you at work?
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My hours are from 12-4:30 and 12-5:45. Yes, it changed a little bit form last time, and it could change again. It changes depending on the day. On the days that I get out a 4:25, I usually stick around for about an hour or so, just to prepare for the next day. Aside from the monthly test preparation days, I am almost always out of there no later then 6pm. So 12-6 is not bad at all. Compared to a hagwon, there is a lot less prep. The only grading I have to do is for the monthly tests, but it's really all up to you, since you are pretty much running the show. If you want to work little harder you can. You also don't have to deal with those absolute bs last minute hagwon schedule changes. That fact alone makes a huge difference.
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| 9. Does you company provide pension/airfare/health insurance? |
Pension? No. Airfare? NO , but health insurance is optional.
I personally do not care because I get paid full time to work part time hours, and am not dealing with all of that absolute hagwon bs, that I, and probably a lot of you on here, have dealt with before.
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10. If you can get one, all indications look like you should take it
after school programs rule. Seriously.
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Hands down.
Uni is the only better gig in Korea imo.
If you have any other questions, I probably don't know the answer. Okay that takes care of everything.
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sadguy
Joined: 13 Feb 2011
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| thanks for the info. i'm asian. sucks. i hate this reverse racism. |
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DaHu
Joined: 09 Feb 2011
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:10 am Post subject: |
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| thanks for the info. i'm asian. sucks. i hate this reverse racism. |
I would want to learn Chinese from a Chinese person, so it makes sense to me.
Thanks for the info about after school. Really sounds interesting. |
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austinmc86
Joined: 23 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:31 am Post subject: |
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| What's the best way to get a job? |
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sadguy
Joined: 13 Feb 2011
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| thanks for the info. i'm asian. sucks. i hate this reverse racism. |
I would want to learn Chinese from a Chinese person, so it makes sense to me.
Thanks for the info about after school. Really sounds interesting. |
i get what you're saying, but china isn't a melting pot like america is. i was born and raised in america but koreans think a white person is born with better english speaking genetics. |
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minos
Joined: 01 Dec 2010
Location: kOREA
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| What's the best way to get a job? |
Having previous related experience and good references help alot.
Most importantly....apply aound March and September....same hiring schedule as the public schools.
If your applying now, there no hope....back to being hagwon monkies 
They're expanding these days so more openings are availible.
THey do hire minorities, including companies that have a hard "only white" hiring rule. It is easily the whitest ESL industry though.
I've never seen an asian.....ever.
Job rocks....and having no boss is insanely awesome. Unless your screwing up, nobody calls you for anything. No job politics if your co-teacher is cool and even the parents are more chill since it's less intensive and cheapr than normal hagwons. |
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ajosshi
Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: ajosshi.com
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| sadguy wrote: |
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| thanks for the info. i'm asian. sucks. i hate this reverse racism. |
I would want to learn Chinese from a Chinese person, so it makes sense to me.
Thanks for the info about after school. Really sounds interesting. |
i get what you're saying, but china isn't a melting pot like america is. i was born and raised in america but koreans think a white person is born with better english speaking genetics. |
don't forget that you're in Korea
Lotsa moo-shik-han people: directors don't know what they're selling, parents don't know what they're buying, and lotsa "teachers" don't know what they're doing. Thinking about this, it's the Perfect Storm. For those with programming experience, it would best be described as GIGO! |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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If you like young kids, I would argue that a kindergarten job is slightly better but still falls short of a uni job.
I am not talking a hagwon kindie like Blunderland. That's not a real kindie. The real ones have strict rules set by the government. We all know hagwons are a crapshoot in Korea. No rules.
Many of them have teachers work 10-4 or something like that for the same pay, 5-8 weeks paid vacation, free lunch, and other benefits. I have worked in 2 and at both, they gave me over an hour for lunch. I was in the classroom for 3-4 hours a day. At one, I didn't even work Fridays. |
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dyc
Joined: 16 Dec 2010
Location: Vancouver
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| DaHu wrote: |
| sadguy wrote: |
| thanks for the info. i'm asian. sucks. i hate this reverse racism. |
I would want to learn Chinese from a Chinese person, so it makes sense to me.
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Yeah, because all Chinese people speak fluent Chinese, and there are definitely no 3rd generationers that are much more culturally "white" than Chinese. |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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If they don't, they'd have a hard time living in China.
If this person in question is an American citizen, he/she's an American.
Let's not mix up words for race and nationality.
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| sadguy wrote: |
| thanks for the info. i'm asian. sucks. i hate this reverse racism. |
I would want to learn Chinese from a Chinese person, so it makes sense to me.
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Yeah, because all Chinese people speak fluent Chinese, and there are definitely no 3rd generationers that are much more culturally "white" than Chinese. |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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Back on topic, what visa do you have, OP?
And I'm guessing it's okay to have another job in addition to the afterschool position?
The only problem I can see is this:
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Pension? No. Airfare? NO , but health insurance is optional.
I personally do not care because I get paid full time to work part time hours, and am not dealing with all of that absolute hagwon bs, that I, and probably a lot of you on here, have dealt with before. |
You may not care, but are you paying taxes? Don't wont Kimmi giving me crap because of the sweet job I managed to pull  |
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kingssurfer
Joined: 14 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:17 am Post subject: |
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| Back on topic, what visa do you have, OP? |
E2
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| And I'm guessing it's okay to have another job in addition to the afterschool position? |
If they give your permission. The company actually had me teaching a part time morning job for a while. Social science to 4th graders for a a while.
taxes? yea
Yes, I like my job. Who wouldn't like this job? |
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DaHu
Joined: 09 Feb 2011
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| Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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| You need to start recruiting for them. You could definitely sign a bunch up from these posts. |
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