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sallymonster



Joined: 06 Feb 2010
Location: Seattle area

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:33 pm    Post subject: School won't pay return airfare Reply with quote

I recently posted about my situation in a couple of other threads, but I didn't get a lot of responses.

I currently work at a GEPIK middle school under the GEPIK contract. My contract ends in a couple of months, and I'm not renewing (my choice). I recently signed a contract with a hagwon, to start 2 weeks after my current contract ends.

During the two weeks between contracts, I want to visit my home country. The GEPIK contract states that at the end of my year I'm entitled to a plane ticket back to my home country. The contract doesn't mention that I can't get a plane ticket if I plan to return to Korea.

Unfortunately, my school says they won't pay for the plane ticket to the US for a "vacation", as they called it, unless I either renew with them (my school is private-public and may not be affected by GEPIK's hiring freeze), or return to the US permanently. My school found out that I was looking for work in Korea because I needed a Korean reference from my school.

I'm not asking my current school to foot the bill for the whole round trip to my home country and back. My new hagwon, in fact, is paying for my flight back to Korea. I can actually save my school money by buying a round trip ticket and asking them to reimburse half the cost.

Should I call my GEPIK coordinator about this? Do I even have a case? Should I lie to my current school and tell them I changed my mind about staying in Korea? (hagwon owner probably wouldn't appreciate having to pay extra for a one-way ticket as opposed to half of a round-trip ticket). Or should I just suck it up and cough up the 600-700 dollars for the Korea-US portion of the round trip flight?

Sorry this is so long, but I'm really frustrated about this. 10 more weeks until I'm out of the PS system!
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ajosshi



Joined: 17 Jan 2011
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:40 pm    Post subject: Re: School won't pay return airfare Reply with quote

sallymonster wrote:
I recently posted about my situation in a couple of other threads, but I didn't get a lot of responses.

I currently work at a GEPIK middle school under the GEPIK contract. My contract ends in a couple of months, and I'm not renewing (my choice). I recently signed a contract with a hagwon, to start 2 weeks after my current contract ends.

During the two weeks between contracts, I want to visit my home country. The GEPIK contract states that at the end of my year I'm entitled to a plane ticket back to my home country. The contract doesn't mention that I can't get a plane ticket if I plan to return to Korea.

Unfortunately, my school says they won't pay for the plane ticket to the US for a "vacation", as they called it, unless I either renew with them (my school is private-public and may not be affected by GEPIK's hiring freeze), or return to the US permanently. My school found out that I was looking for work in Korea because I needed a Korean reference from my school.

I'm not asking my current school to foot the bill for the whole round trip to my home country and back. My new hagwon, in fact, is paying for my flight back to Korea. I can actually save my school money by buying a round trip ticket and asking them to reimburse half the cost.

Should I call my GEPIK coordinator about this? Do I even have a case? Should I lie to my current school and tell them I changed my mind about staying in Korea? (hagwon owner probably wouldn't appreciate having to pay extra for a one-way ticket as opposed to half of a round-trip ticket). Or should I just suck it up and cough up the 600-700 dollars for the Korea-US portion of the round trip flight?

Sorry this is so long, but I'm really frustrated about this. 10 more weeks until I'm out of the PS system!


Sally, They owe you that ticket! Good luck
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BoholDiver



Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better to ask for a cash settlement and then use the money to buy yourself a roundtrip ticket.

You could lie and say you changed your mind, and now you are going home. But no reason to lie. Demand your ticket or call the people higher in the food chain. Poop rolls downhill though. Be ready for a bad few weeks at work.

Korea. You want us to hate you, don't you?
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jrwhite82



Joined: 22 May 2010

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are required to give you a plane ticket home (or reimburse you for one you bought).

They are not required to buy you a plane ticket to Thailand or Indonesia.

In your case, it is their contractual obligation to buy you a one way ticket to your home country. It says it plain as day in both English and Korean (the binding language of the contract).
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MacLean



Joined: 14 Feb 2011

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They don't have a leg to stand on. What you do after you leave Korea is none of their business. You have every right to come back to a new job. I've done it. It's none of the school's business. They are 100% obligated to provide you with the ticket. Phone the labour board today!

It's your flight ticket. They cannot deny it to you based on what you may or may not do after you leave Korea.
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West Coast Tatterdemalion



Joined: 31 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are making the right choice in getting out of the public school game, Sally. And you definitely have a case there. They owe you that plane ticket.
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just tell them you changed your mind and are going back to your country and not returning to Korea.

Then take the ticket to the airline and get a refund.
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BoholDiver



Joined: 03 Oct 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why should be have to stoop to their level and lie to 'save face'.

Lying is part of Korean culture, sure, but I won't do it.

Stan Rogers wrote:
Just tell them you changed your mind and are going back to your country and not returning to Korea.

Then take the ticket to the airline and get a refund.
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing wrong with the public school game. Teachers incur different problems based on how their VP's and P's interpret such situations.

If you have a case, take it to the Labor Board. They are the experts on Korean Labor Law.
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sallymonster



Joined: 06 Feb 2010
Location: Seattle area

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking of calling GEPIK first. Does anyone know the name/number of the coordinator for Suwon? I can't remember! Embarassed
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Illysook



Joined: 30 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking about applying for a position at the foreign language high school where a friend of mine works. She's leaving and will recommend me. The position would begin about a month after my contract ends.

I asked my coteacher about saving both schools money by purchasing a round trip ticket and she said that due to accounting practices, there would be no way to do this. Your current school is obligated to pay for your trip home and your new school must pay for your trip back to Korea. Of course, once your school pays for the first ticket, you might be able to work something out with the airline and save the second school money, but don't count on it.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sallymonster wrote:
I'm thinking of calling GEPIK first. Does anyone know the name/number of the coordinator for Suwon? I can't remember! Embarassed


I found contact info (emails) here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/24444810/GEPIK-Bibimbap-News-Issue-One

But if you are calling Dain Bae in Suwon, don't bother. Bad news, that *COUGH HARPY COUGH*

Excuse me Smile
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TravelinSig



Joined: 30 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Illysook wrote:

I asked my coteacher about saving both schools money by purchasing a round trip ticket and she said that due to accounting practices, there would be no way to do this. Your current school is obligated to pay for your trip home and your new school must pay for your trip back to Korea. Of course, once your school pays for the first ticket, you might be able to work something out with the airline and save the second school money, but don't count on it.

OP, I think I understand where your school is having a problem. Illysook touched on this briefly. Since there is a ridiculous amount of paperwork and regulations placed on public schools from the government, your school can't figure out how to refund you 1/2 the amount of a ticket. You are asking two schools to spit the cost of one (round-trip) ticket. Yeah it's cheaper for everyone for you to buy a round-trip ticket, but they probably don't know how do legally document or explain why they are only reimbursing 1/2 the cost of a purchased ticket. If you were to buy to separate ticket (more expensive) I think you would have an easier time getting your school to reimburse you.
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sallymonster



Joined: 06 Feb 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TravelinSig wrote:
Illysook wrote:

I asked my coteacher about saving both schools money by purchasing a round trip ticket and she said that due to accounting practices, there would be no way to do this. Your current school is obligated to pay for your trip home and your new school must pay for your trip back to Korea. Of course, once your school pays for the first ticket, you might be able to work something out with the airline and save the second school money, but don't count on it.

OP, I think I understand where your school is having a problem. Illysook touched on this briefly. Since there is a ridiculous amount of paperwork and regulations placed on public schools from the government, your school can't figure out how to refund you 1/2 the amount of a ticket. You are asking two schools to spit the cost of one (round-trip) ticket. Yeah it's cheaper for everyone for you to buy a round-trip ticket, but they probably don't know how do legally document or explain why they are only reimbursing 1/2 the cost of a purchased ticket. If you were to buy to separate ticket (more expensive) I think you would have an easier time getting your school to reimburse you.


No, I didn't even bring up this possibility with my school. They don't want to pay for my airfare at all, because I'm only flying home for 2 weeks before starting a new job in Korea. My school said they would only pay for my airfare if i was either renewing with them or leaving Korea for good.


I found a more recent issue of the GEPIK Bibimbap News and I tried to call the number for my area coordinator, but the number was disconnected. Does anyone have an updated phone number for GEPIK coordinator Ivy Chung?
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sallymonster



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stan Rogers wrote:
Just tell them you changed your mind and are going back to your country and not returning to Korea.

Then take the ticket to the airline and get a refund.


I found out today that I can't really do that. I checked the immigration website today, and apparently, to transfer my visa to the new school, I'm going to need a release letter from my current school. My new school is saying that the 2 weeks between contracts may not be enough time to get a whole new visa (I personally think it could be enough time, but cutting it very close).
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