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sistersarah
Joined: 03 Jan 2004
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 Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:08 am Post subject: camera question |
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so i'm looking to buy a new digital (yes, tokki, i know i'm buying a "toy" - there, now you don't have to say it).
there are so many cameras to pick from it's mind-boggling!
i'm looking at a canon IXUS II. does anyone have this camera or know anything about it? it says it comes with an SD memory card. what is SD? don't know much about this stuff. appreciate any help.
**hey, this is my 100th post. cool. |
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The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:14 am Post subject: |
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Why that model? Price? Size? You seem kind of specific considering you don't know a lot about it...
I say that because I was looking around online the other day and saw a really good looking Olympus being sold online for around 220,000w (3megapixel, 3x zoom)... If I was shopping right now for a basic, decent digicam, I'd be going for that.
Anyway, to answer your question, "SD" stands for "secure digital". It's just the variety of small memory card that the camera takes. Mine uses them too.
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tokki
Joined: 26 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:17 am Post subject: Re: camera question |
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| sistersarah wrote: |
so i'm looking to buy a new digital (yes, tokki, i know i'm buying a "toy" - there, now you don't have to say it).
there are so many cameras to pick from it's mind-boggling!
i'm looking at a canon IXUS II. does anyone have this camera or know anything about it? it says it comes with an SD memory card. what is SD? don't know much about this stuff. appreciate any help.
**hey, this is my 100th post. cool. |
Well, damn...I was gonna say that you are buying a toy, but now I cant... |
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sistersarah
Joined: 03 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 6:05 am Post subject: |
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| ya, i saw some some good prices on olympus cameras on omi.com but then i went to other digital camera review sites and there were actually a lot of bad reviews on some of the models i was looking at. so that turned me off. but then again, who are those people? i'm finding this confusing. lemon, you gave me the "omi" site. do you know of any others? |
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wylde
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| carrefour had a sony 2.0mp - 5x zoom for 170,000 a few weeks ago |
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Korea Newfie
Joined: 27 Mar 2003
Location: Newfoundland and Labrador
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| wylde wrote: |
| carrefour had a sony 2.0mp - 5x zoom for 170,000 a few weeks ago |
My girlfriend has a Sony 2.0, and the pics are fine. However, I'm with The Lemon, I'd go for a 3.0. Above 3.0, I don't notice much difference in picture quality unless I look closely, but I think 3.0's enough of an improvement on 2.0 to warrant coughing up a few more dollars. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 8:38 am Post subject: |
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| SD seems to be winning the 'memory card wars' at the moment and is being used in most of the new pocket PCs, PDAs, MP3s, and digicams- all other things being equal I'd recommend getting a camera that takes SD cards over Smart Media, Compact flash, or Memory Stick. [Of course there are many other more important determining factors in choosing a digital camera but I just thought I'd throw this info into the thread.] |
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Korea Newfie
Joined: 27 Mar 2003
Location: Newfoundland and Labrador
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 8:51 am Post subject: |
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| Bulsajo wrote: |
| SD seems to be winning the 'memory card wars' at the moment and is being used in most of the new pocket PCs, PDAs, MP3s, and digicams- all other things being equal I'd recommend getting a camera that takes SD cards over Smart Media, Compact flash, or Memory Stick. [Of course there are many other more important determining factors in choosing a digital camera but I just thought I'd throw this info into the thread.] |
Why this preference? Admittedly, I did little comparison of memory cards when I was shopping around. I just found the camera I wanted and dealt with whatever storage card it used. It happened to me a memory stick. Do you recommend the SD card because of price, ubiquity, or is it better? I really have no idea...
Side note, the memory stick can be used in many Sony devices, and Samsung is now manufacturing the memory stick and making memory stick compatible devices. |
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Swiss James
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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I don't honestly think the type of memory card is a big factor when you're choosing a digital toy- sorry, camera- unless you've already spent a bit of money on one type with a high capacity.
I've got a 128Mb smart card and a 128 SD card already but am in the market for another cam so don't want to start splashing out again for a good sized memory stick or whatever.
For your first camera though, think about the features you need, size, weight, picture quality etc etc (you can find all of that stuff here http://www.steves-digicams.com/) way before you weigh up the pros and cons of the memory card.
I'd recommend getting a camera with a 'macro' mode by the way, since the lack of one is the biggest beef I have with mine right now. |
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The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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The memory IS a factor, mainly for cost. "Memory sticks" are proprietary Sony cards. They're like buying something from Apple. They work well, but they'll charge you through the nose for it, compared to the other formats, for which you can buy cheap Taiwanese no-name brands that also work well.
The absolute cheapest cards are the Compact Flash ones. But they're quickly becoming obsolete because of their bulky size, relative to SD and XD cards.
SD cards have come down in price a lot in the last year. And they're a lot easier to find. They're being used in MP3 players and cell phones, as well as digital cameras, so that's helping their popularity as a "standard" storage medium.
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| ya, i saw some some good prices on olympus cameras on omi.com but then i went to other digital camera review sites and there were actually a lot of bad reviews on some of the models i was looking at. |
I've never owned an Olympus camera, but they're highly regarded on professional review sites. So are Canons and Nikons, but they tend to be more expensive for the same relative feature set, because of the name. My only reservation about the Olympus is that it takes XD cards, which are a bit more expensive than SD, and harder to find, though that situation is improving.
An alternative, at only 3,000w more, is this Ricoh camera which takes SD cards. They're not a big name in cameras, but they're a huge Japanese conglomorate. It's not the smallest camera, but has good specs. I'd buy one. |
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the saint
Joined: 09 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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two and a half years ago I bought a Sony MVC-CD300 which stores images on a mini CD - endless cheap media. It takes fantastic pictures and I would say you shouldn't really be considering a camera with less than a 3 megapixel resolution. At the time our 3.4 camera was top of the range. I paid more for it but it still kicks butt even over two years later in terms of image quality.
http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/sony/mvc_cd300-review/
if you're interested |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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It was only after I bought my first digital camera did I realise that the Megapixel number does not reflect the quality of the image but rather just the size.
So the higher the Megapixel count the bigger a photo you can get if you then go to print them.
I personally don't see an immediate need to print any of my pictures as I'm happy to store and view them on my PC.
Also, if you take a full-size digital picture it's too big to be attached to an e-mail so sharing photos with your friends can only really be done with a small sized picture.
So, unless you really want to print big copies of your pictures don't bother with a big Megapixel camera. |
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The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| So, unless you really want to print big copies of your pictures don't bother with a big Megapixel camera. |
Have to disagree. More megapixels gives you more room to crop and enlarge. This is especially the case if you're taking an image at full zoom, and you'd still like to make the subject bigger later.
Lower-resolution cameras limit how much you can do this. All of my photos on the contest site are just sections of larger images, reframed. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| The Lemon wrote: |
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| So, unless you really want to print big copies of your pictures don't bother with a big Megapixel camera. |
Have to disagree. More megapixels gives you more room to crop and enlarge. This is especially the case if you're taking an image at full zoom, and you'd still like to make the subject bigger later.
Lower-resolution cameras limit how much you can do this. All of my photos on the contest site are just sections of larger images, reframed. |
Sure, if you're doing a lot of zoom shots and a lot of cropping and re-framing later then a bigger image is useful but how often do casual users do this?
For the point-and-shooters out there I don't think a big 5mp camera is required. Indeed, my new camera is 4mp yet I find I'm mostly using the smallest setting as I can fit more pictures on the memory card and I can easily e-mail them. |
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The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
Sure, if you're doing a lot of zoom shots and a lot of cropping and re-framing later then a bigger image is useful but how often do casual users do this?
For the point-and-shooters out there I don't think a big 5mp camera is required. |
I agree with that. 2-3 is plenty. But the OP has demonstrated that she likes to take photos sometimes that go beyond point-and-shoot. She'd make use of a camera with a bit more resolution.
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| I find I'm mostly using the smallest setting as I can fit more pictures on the memory card and I can easily e-mail them. |
Up to you, but I wouldn't do that. Memory is cheap, and storage is even cheaper. You never know when you'll want to do something more with an image than just send it on an e-mail. I have every photo I've ever taken since December 2001, through 4 digicams, saved at full resolution, 3415 images, as of today - and they take up just under one half of a 2500w DVD+RW. Costs nothing to take and save the best images you can. |
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