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Racism against dark skinned koreans?
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Lazio



Joined: 15 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:04 am    Post subject: Re: hmmm Reply with quote

no_tofu_speed wrote:
Those with a tan were considered to be part of a working class, even social status of "untouchables" and therefore shunned.


It has changed a bit recently. A nice sun tan, especially in winter can mean that the person was able to afford a trip to the tropical zone. Not really money wise, but more like free-time wise. As we all know, Koreans have very limited vacation time in a year.
So as I heard.
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nero



Joined: 11 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:45 am    Post subject: Re: hmmm Reply with quote

Lazio wrote:
no_tofu_speed wrote:
Those with a tan were considered to be part of a working class, even social status of "untouchables" and therefore shunned.


It has changed a bit recently. A nice sun tan, especially in winter can mean that the person was able to afford a trip to the tropical zone. Not really money wise, but more like free-time wise. As we all know, Koreans have very limited vacation time in a year.
So as I heard.


Yeah, some of my co teachers have taken it to an extreme and look quite ill. My students (who are rich and tanned) refer to them as the ghosts!
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cragesmure



Joined: 23 Oct 2010

PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:36 am    Post subject: Re: Racism against dark skinned koreans? Reply with quote

NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote:
cragesmure wrote:
methdxman wrote:
minos wrote:
Anybody have any links to articles about this?

I heard it was bad back in the day, but does it still linger.


Racism? How is that racism? Hahaha...

Nice use of the quote. Didn't contain the word "racism" at all. I get that it was in the original topic, but I think we can all assume that the OP was talking about prejudice. It may be that more helpful insights and fewer comments regarding semantics might be useful.


Read the title of the thread, Einstein.

I think I did, hence my comment. Where are your comprehension skills? The quote was misused, Einstein. But thanks for the input.
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ZIFA



Joined: 23 Feb 2011
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard Koreans jokingly refer to dark-skinned people as "kammagi" (crows).
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NYC_Gal 2.0



Joined: 10 Dec 2010

PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Racism against dark skinned koreans? Reply with quote

cragesmure wrote:
NYC_Gal 2.0 wrote:
cragesmure wrote:
methdxman wrote:
minos wrote:
Anybody have any links to articles about this?

I heard it was bad back in the day, but does it still linger.


Racism? How is that racism? Hahaha...

Nice use of the quote. Didn't contain the word "racism" at all. I get that it was in the original topic, but I think we can all assume that the OP was talking about prejudice. It may be that more helpful insights and fewer comments regarding semantics might be useful.


Read the title of the thread, Einstein.

I think I did, hence my comment. Where are your comprehension skills? The quote was misused, Einstein. But thanks for the input.


You said that it didn't contain the word at all, but it was the OP, which is directly linked to the TITLE. Your post was wrong.

Good try, though.
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Slowmotion



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol @ racism towards your own race
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cyui



Joined: 10 Jan 2011

PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep. Thanks. I love it. 'Don't hate someone because of who they are;hate
them because of who you are".

Can you comprehend that, Einstein? :lol:
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO, the way I think Koreans look at this, if you clearly have tons of money, then it's okay to have a tan.......but being poor and tanned is a no-no.
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cyui



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know some people have such a warped sense of reality. :shock:
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travel zen



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In the black community it used to be a big issue, t wouldn't susprise me if it occured here.


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I think its like black Americans in the South. That darker skin looks like suntanned skin from working in the fields, rather than a fairer complexion from inside workers or rich elites or what have you.


You guys talk about this, but is it an American thing? Most Africans think darker skin is better. I myself much prefer darker skin than anything else.

In the American South, 150 years ago, was this a 'thing' ?
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northway



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

travel zen wrote:
In the American South, 150 years ago, was this a 'thing' ?


Try fifty years ago or less.
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MyNameIsNobody



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:45 pm    Post subject: Racism against dark skinned koreans? Reply with quote

travel zen wrote:
Quote:
In the black community it used to be a big issue, t wouldn't susprise me if it occured here.


Quote:
I think its like black Americans in the South. That darker skin looks like suntanned skin from working in the fields, rather than a fairer complexion from inside workers or rich elites or what have you.


You guys talk about this, but is it an American thing? Most Africans think darker skin is better. I myself much prefer darker skin than anything else.

In the American South, 150 years ago, was this a 'thing' ?


Sure it was/is "an American thing" as long as we include Central and South America too (and the Caribbean). I can't really speak about Canada beyond anecdotal stuff.

travel zen wrote:
Most Africans think darker skin is better.


Out of curiosity, what are you basing this on?
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methdxman



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Racism against dark skinned koreans? Reply with quote

cragesmure wrote:
methdxman wrote:
minos wrote:
Anybody have any links to articles about this?

I heard it was bad back in the day, but does it still linger.


Racism? How is that racism? Hahaha...

Nice use of the quote. Didn't contain the word "racism" at all. I get that it was in the original topic, but I think we can all assume that the OP was talking about prejudice. It may be that more helpful insights and fewer comments regarding semantics might be useful.


Please, whatever you do, do not raise children.
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travel zen



Joined: 22 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sure it was/is "an American thing" as long as we include Central and South America too (and the Caribbean). I can't really speak about Canada beyond anecdotal stuff.

travel zen wrote:
Most Africans think darker skin is better.


Out of curiosity, what are you basing this on?


I don't think you are black, but my family from the Caribbean, and their extended friends do not hold such an idiotic idea.

I can only imagine that an oppresive slave society would think of the darker/lighter thing. How many shades of brown is there?

African people I've known forever, I can list the countries that couldn't care less about darker/lighter shades. I've been to West Africa and I'm going there again.

It might be something you have read in a book dated 1950 by Fitzgerald McKennon Shocked Rolling Eyes Laughing Laughing

It's not a black thing generally, its too unnatural. Do people really hate themselves? Not unless they have mental problems.

I would conceed that the Arab/Tuareg/Black African intermix has caused societal problems (slavery/genocide,etc) but black people do not want to be 'lighter skin' even then.
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minos



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It used to be the case 50 or so years ago.

The lighter, mixed black folks (mulatto) used to be richer, more educated than the poorer, darker ones. It's referenced quite a bit in literature from that era. I think it died out after the civil rights era or at least stopped being an issue.

Since Korean only modernized recently, I wonder if some old, pale folks are prejudiced still.
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