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sadguy
Joined: 13 Feb 2011
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 Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:07 pm Post subject: should a teacher be fired for their past? |
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http://www.examiner.com/politics-education-in-national/sex-blog-costs-teacher-her-job-1
a teacher in the states is under some heat after she published a blog about her days as a sex worker.
do you think it should matter? i feel kind of mixed.
my liberal side says that's her past, and that it's not relevant to how good she is as a teacher, but conversely, what kind of role model is that teacher to her students? |
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nukeday
Joined: 13 May 2010
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| Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: should a teacher be fired for their past? |
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| sadguy wrote: |
http://www.examiner.com/politics-education-in-national/sex-blog-costs-teacher-her-job-1
a teacher in the states is under some heat after she published a blog about her days as a sex worker.
do you think it should matter? i feel kind of mixed.
my liberal side says that's her past, and that it's not relevant to how good she is as a teacher, but conversely, what kind of role model is that teacher to her students? |
i dont think she is being fired for her past. she's being fired for advertising her past.
why post your past illegal activities in a public forum? foolishness |
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sadguy
Joined: 13 Feb 2011
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| Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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yeah. bad move on her part to post her illegal activities. but lets say she was an ex porn star. she'd probably be in the same situation.
but to get back on track, how would you feel if your child's teacher was an ex-sex worker? |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:24 pm Post subject: Re: should a teacher be fired for their past? |
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| nukeday wrote: |
| i dont think she is being fired for her past. she's being fired for advertising her past. |
Right. And with regards to the articles question, "Does it make sense to get rid of a teacher solely based on her past as a sex worker?" yes it makes total sense to let individual teachers go over intentional, present behavior which is completely unbecoming of an educator. Unlike many other professions, teaching is a vocation where your personal life is not entirely clear cut and distinct from your professional life. Nor should it be; the qualifications of an educator lie not only in skill and knowledge, but in character and judgment. Our children being educated by whores -- even retired whores who merely reminisce about their past experiences in public -- is simply not something we need. |
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nukeday
Joined: 13 May 2010
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| Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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what i don't know can't hurt me. i'm sure it has no effect on her ability as an educator.
however, since she announced her former part time job - i would prefer my child to have a teacher who does not have a criminal past.
remember, if she'd have been caught, she'd have a criminal record and be unfit for the job - hell, even here in korea. police never caught her. that's the only difference. |
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silkhighway
Joined: 24 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Morality aside, she's blatantly and unapologetically advertising her past partaking in criminal behaviour, so yes, she should be fired.
Another case recently from Quebec; High school secretary�s job on the line after student finds her porn videos online
In this case, even if it was a teacher and not the secretary, I'd say no, the school has no legal grounds to fire her. |
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Illysook
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't see why people shouldn't be allowed to move on with their lives. |
They should be able to move on with their lives, but that doesn't give them the right to teach children whose parents don't want them spending 8 hours a day with ex-whores.
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| Why should porn companies be allowed to use images any older than that? |
Expecting porn companies to voluntarily self-police and stop using certain images after a set number of years to accommodate whores who want to become public educators seems unrealistic to me. |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Normally I side with the teacher, however not in this case.
Personal lives should stay that- personal. Is Melissa Petro saying it is okay for her young students to try living her life (if she was looked up to by these students it could influence their decision) and following her self-made decisions? If she hadn't come out with all this information rather she worked to hide it, it would change my opinion of the entire situation. However now, I'd say let that b*tch go.  |
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Illysook
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:00 am Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| Illysook wrote: |
| I don't see why people shouldn't be allowed to move on with their lives. |
They should be able to move on with their lives, but that doesn't give them the right to teach children whose parents don't want them spending 8 hours a day with ex-whores.
| Illysook wrote: |
| Why should porn companies be allowed to use images any older than that? |
Expecting porn companies to voluntarily self-police and stop using certain images after a set number of years to accommodate whores who want to become public educators seems unrealistic to me. |
Who better than a former prostitute or porn sky to tell the truth about this destructive lifestyle?
Need some examples? Here ya' go:
http://www.shelleylubben.com/
http://www.annebissell.com/
http://www.victimsofpornography.org/ |
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sirius black
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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I vote should not be fired. You can extrapolate that into all kinds of reasons to fire someone.
Some guy was a gang member in his teen years, turned himself around, went to college, becomes a teacher, a good one and it gets out he was a gang member once. Using the same line of logic, he should be fired, right?
Or someone had a DUI when they were a college junior, 21 y.o. that is a past criminal act.
A guy is gay or a woman is lesbian and his/her profile is on some gay site and some student lying their age goes on said site and sees that teacher who is an elementary school teacher in some bible belt state.
What if a teacher is married and they are swingers. Totally legal.
Its a slippery slope. Too much room for abuse and prejudice. Too much o it based on someone else's idea of morality. If the person is doing their job and is not presently involved in criminal activity there should be no grounds for dismissal. You or I may not like such activity but we are the ones with the issue not them. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Illysook wrote: |
Who better than a former prostitute or porn sky to tell the truth about this destructive lifestyle? |
We do not need ex-whores in the classroom talking about how destructive the prostitute lifestyle is. We need people with sufficient judgment and quality of character that they did not have to try it to see that it was bad. There are plenty of fields an ex-*beep* can find her "redemption" in that do not require them spending 8 hours a day guiding our society's children. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| She's being fired for poor judgment. She authored a blog, a journal on the most public of platforms, about her prior and illegal sex work. |
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AmericanExile
Joined: 04 May 2009
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| Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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I agree her problem is her blogging about her past in the present.
I for one would like to actually have a conversation with her before I decided if I wanted her fired. |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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Got to love this..
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| �If she had group sex with three people in her home and her neighbour filmed it . . . that's private ... you shouldn't confuse things!� |
As if a school would just let that kind of thing go ignored... |
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