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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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 Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| travel zen wrote: |
Yes or No answer:
Are all races, ethnicities, cultures and human beings deserving of equal status and equal rights ? |
All races, ethnicities, and human beings, yes. I'm treating status as a synonym for rights, but I don't mean equal economic status or hierarchical status in the private sector for individuals (equal opportunity = yes).
Cultures is far more complicated. I mean what would it mean for cultures to have rights? |
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travel zen
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Location: Good old Toronto, Canada
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| Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not all for the 'brotherhood of Man' because I know that will never work...but if one carves up races as crayola colours (black/white/yellow/brown) then know that they all are human beings and saying one color is less than another/ not deserving/uglier/smaller is not what Miss Crabapple wants us to learn.
This sites hatred of black crayola colours is quite pathetic. What black americans think (or the propaganda that tells us what they think) is not what 'black peoples' think at all.
When I see American commericals I want to hurl. So much stereotyping...of everybody !!! The Great Shaitan  |
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ELGORDO
Joined: 12 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Right,
So, here are the 10 IQ-est countries in the world:
1 Hong Kong 107
2 South Korea 106
3 Japan 105
4 Taiwan 104
5 Singapore 103
6 Austria 102
6 Germany 102
6 Italy 102
6 Netherlands 102
10 Sweden 101
Bottom ten? Or would that be wayciss. In fact the Teutons (Germanic races)
roughly the Bavarians, Austrians and Czeck Rep are at about 107 &
Ashkenazi Jews average 115. Askenazi Jews are routinely 1 to 2 and even 3 standand deviations (each being app. 15 IQ points) above their peers. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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Stdev isn't constant. The more homogeneous the population, the tighter the distribution. The 15 is generally used with whites in the US (who can have ancestors from Portugal to Russia). The Japanese have a much tighter distribution, apparently.
http://iratde.org/issues/1-2009/tde_issue_1-2009_03_rindermann_et_al.pdf
^ Good read. Very relevant to this thread. |
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Menino80
Joined: 10 Jun 2007
Location: Hodor?
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| Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:13 am Post subject: |
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"In addition, cognitive ability of nations has
a positive impact on political development, in that it helps building up democracy, the rule of
law and political liberty "
OR
"In addition, the development of rule of law, democracy, and the rule of law and political liberty (and the wealth necessary to achieve these institutions has a positive impact on cognitive ability"
where is the causation? who cares! take care of morality and God will take care of the economy |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| Menino80 wrote: |
"In addition, cognitive ability of nations has
a positive impact on political development, in that it helps building up democracy, the rule of
law and political liberty "
OR
"In addition, the development of rule of law, democracy, and the rule of law and political liberty (and the wealth necessary to achieve these institutions has a positive impact on cognitive ability"
where is the causation? who cares! take care of morality and God will take care of the economy |
Why do you feel snark is enough to make your point? Its getting aggravating. Its like you are about to make a cogent argument, and then you give up.
Do you feel people who disagree with you aren't worth the trouble or something?
I, for one, would like you to make the argument for environment over nature. |
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:16 pm Post subject: ... |
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| Its like you are about to make a cogent argument, and then you give up. |
Funny things happen when you start to treat each state as a country.
Receptivity to libertarianism kind of flops.
Of course, judging people by their IQ is kind of a relic at this point, provided you studied all of those contemptible other subjects than "the system, and how to manipulate it." |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:28 pm Post subject: Re: ... |
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| Its like you are about to make a cogent argument, and then you give up. |
Funny things happen when you start to treat each state as a country.
Receptivity to libertarianism kind of flops.
Of course, judging people by their IQ is kind of a relic at this point, provided you studied all of those contemptible other subjects than "the system, and how to manipulate it." |
Is there an argument for why environment trumps nature somewhere in there? |
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:13 pm Post subject: ... |
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| Is there an argument for why environment trumps nature somewhere in there? |
No. The nature v nurture argument is something like comparing Skinner's behaviorism to audiolingualism in ELT. That's now a good 15-20 years in the past.
It isn't nature v nurture. It's how you nurture nature.
Choosing to be a lawyer or an accountant is pretty much unrelated to IQ, other than having a base cognitive ability to succeed at it. Lawyers and accountants don't really account (pardon the pun) for quality of life in society, nor innovation.
They are, however well paid, clerks in our progress.
Lawyers and accountants won't save/help us colonize other planets, which we MUST do or face total annihilation.
Rather, they're clowns in the money circus, not really more important than entertainers, and fundamentally suspect as compared to teachers.
To get back at it, I don't readily poop on people making money other ways. If everyone did what I do, it wouldn't be possible for civilization to carry on.
That said, I can't imagine why a grown man who is an accountant would hang around a board for EFL teachers, especially displaying open contempt for EFL teachers.
That, of course, is not you, but it says a lot for your compadre.
Something in his nature is being nurtured.
But, alas, I have only my mother tongue as a qualification... |
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