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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:13 am Post subject: The Canadian Election |
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http://ca.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idCATRE72T2YY20110407
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TORONTO (Reuters) - An opinion poll released on Thursday had the Conservatives maintaining a 9-point lead over the Liberals.
The Nanos Research tracking poll of results over three days of surveys put support for the Conservatives at 39.6 percent, down slightly from 39.7 percent in Tuesday's survey. Support for the Liberals grew to 30.4 percent from 29.9 percent.
Under Canada's electoral system, a party needs around 40 percent of the vote to win a majority of the 308 seats in the House of Commons. |
Those of you who are interested in the direction of this election should read http://threehundredeight.blogspot.com It's similar to www.fivethirtyeight.com in the US.
http://threehundredeight.blogspot.com/2011/04/conservative-majority.html
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Four new polls this morning. Four! In 2008 this would have been nothing special, but in 2011 this is a deluge. However, new polls don't always mean new changes, and this set of polls has had little effect on the projection. But we do have a few seat swaps, and the end result is a Conservative majority government. But only just. |
We may get to see Harper's hidden agenda. |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe we will actually be able to do something. Instead of trying to size-down the government and lower taxes but having to listen to Layton all the time telling him to spend more. |
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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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My vote is easy: Liberal, because then our Minister of Science & Technology would be Canada's first astronaut and former head of the CSA (Marc Garneau). The current minister in that role is a chiropractor by profession. My vote isn't entirely swayed by single issues but since the Liberals always do a fairly good job running the country there's no reason not to. I also like their plans on high-speed rail. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Koveras
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:46 am Post subject: |
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The CBC has this thing called a 'vote compass'. It isn't very well designed, but some people might want to try it anyway.
If I vote, it will be for the Canadian Action Party. |
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Kimbop

Joined: 31 Mar 2008
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:49 am Post subject: |
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mithridates wrote: |
My vote isn't entirely swayed by single issues but since the Liberals always do a fairly good job running the country there's no reason not to. I also like their plans on high-speed rail. |
In other words, you want the rest of Canada to pay for and subsidize something that ontario -- or better yet, the private sector -- should be paying for.
I'm no fan of deficits, so I denounce the Libs' support of -- and advocacy of growing -- the Conservatives' 2009-present deficit budgets. I like the Liberals' '97-'05 & the Cons' 06-08 debt shrinkage. I like healthcare cuts, with expenses put on the backs of the provinces.
My vote is swayed by gun control. It must go.
What other option do Canadians have, in order to:
- shrink the size of our welfare-proliferated underclass
- diminish unsustainable healthcare, indian act, and pension benefits
- lower taxes, more personal responsibility, fewer govt paper-pushing coffee drinkers
- diminish anchor babies, lower immigration; ban tamil tiger boats
- less free healthcare for illegal aliens and Canadians of convenience
- fewer limits on freedom of speech
Which party most closely advocates libertarianism? Which party most closely discourages the unsustainable ponzi-scheme freedom-reducing multiculti Euro-nanny state?
Too many Canadians expect the welfare state to coddle. Too many Canadians want 'something for nothing'.
My taxes are much cheaper in Arizona. I can ride my motorcycle without a helmet, I carry a gun wherever I want, I walk down the street while drinking a bud light, and I vote for my local judge to send deviants to prison for good.
Canada is not a free country. |
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Kimbop

Joined: 31 Mar 2008
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:03 am Post subject: |
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Koveras wrote: |
The CBC has this thing called a 'vote compass'. It isn't very well designed, but some people might want to try it anyway.
If I vote, it will be for the Canadian Action Party. |
The 'Vote Compass' works especially well for socialists.
From the comments on the left-wing CBC's own page:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadavotes2011/story/2011/04/03/cv-election-vote-compass.html#
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The 'Leaning' compass seems be working just fine for Ignatieff'......
If you cant ' Baffle ' the old folks, go after the new kids on the block......
I agree with many others, it is biased towards the Liberals, no doubt about it...... I lean so far left that I'm nearly falling off the edge, yet the compass had me voting Liberal?? give me a break....... .
This compass was SO INACCURATE I laughed after it was done..
This is how my tax dollars are spent? Funding more poorly-disguised cheerleading for the Liberal Party. The frustrating thing is the executives at CBC are too stupid to be embarrased by their lack of ethics and professionalism. The time to privatize is long overdue. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:10 am Post subject: |
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http://www.freedomtoread.ca/censorship_in_canada/challenged_books.asp
Canada has a large number of interest groups that constantly work for censorship, human rights kangaroo courts, mass third world immigration, wars, diminished civil liberties (ie the right to self defense) and the rest. The political parties can't resist. They just can't.
Then we have to fear the incredible, unending housing bubble. Credit collapses are not fun. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Kimbop wrote: |
The 'Vote Compass' works especially well for socialists. |
I don't know. I thought it pegged me fairly well. Borderline on Social issues yet Fiscally Conservative. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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I took the Vote Compass. I used to live in Maine, so I told them I was from New Brunswick.
I had to press "don't know" a few times, because some of the questions presumed that I had a baseline knowledge of Canada I felt I lacked, i.e. "Should X be increased?" when I didn't know what value the present X was.
The position I got on the compass was about where I had tested on these before, so in that sense its accurate. I was neutral on social issues, but moderately right economically. They said I should vote Liberal, but Conservatives are also in my bubble. But when I narrowed my focus (they did a really good job there) and selected three out of six issues that charged me the most (Defense, Economy, and Quebec), I definitely became a Liberal voter (my social liberal score increased dramatically).
So, go Liberals? *shrug* |
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Fox

Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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Ontario is straight north of Wisconsin, so Pretend Canadian Fox is from Ontario.
Pretend Fox ended up more or less directly on the "Socially Liberal/Conservative" line, and maybe 25% of the way from the middle of the "Economic Liberal/Conservative" line in the left direction. The Liberals and Greens are both in his circle, but just barely. Pretend Canadian Fox doesn't especially like any of the parties, will not vote for any of them on election day, and will probably leave the country at his earliest opportunity to escape the society around him. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007 Location: retired
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Vote Compass puts me with Libs. Too bad there wasn't a question that asked if one wanted Canada to follow the UK into the Orwellian toilet.
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I looked into the Canadian Action Party. I like the monetary and sovereignty positions. They're not running a candidate in my riding. Green or spoilt ballot it is. I bet I'll be the only global warming denier who votes Green. |
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Madigan
Joined: 15 Oct 2010
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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^Yes, and I also have a sneaking suspicion you will be the only male green voter whose name isn't Herb. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:13 am Post subject: |
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Um... might as well ask here - is it easy for Canadians to vote while overseas? Anyone done it? |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:23 am Post subject: |
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It said I am conservative. No surprise there. NDP is my worst pick, they say. I just think Layton is better than Iggy. |
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