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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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 Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:26 am Post subject: Korea Bans Corporal Punishment - US Pepper Sprays 2nd Grader |
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http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2011/04/06/exp.HLNPepperSpray.hln.html
So, yeah, that's pretty disgraceful. Police pepper spray an 8 year old with emotional disturbance. Excessive force much?
I'm not too sure about the credibility of the media "doctor" they interviewed though...
Why didn't the teachers do anything besides go and hide in another room? If they have students with emotional disturbance, someone should be on staff who is trained in restraint methods. Why did it take so long for the mother to get there? Why did the police decide to use mace on an 8 year old child?
I think the mother needs to accept more responsibility instead of just blaming the schools. If he is that prone to violence, she should have had him placed in a school/program for students with emotional disturbance...not forcing him into inclusion classrooms in your public school around the corner. She should have him placed in a school where they are allowed to use a hands on approach designed to keep students safe from themselves and others and the teachers are trained in proper restraint procedures (to protect themselves and the students). Most public school districts in America have this kind of support available.
Police need to be trained better on how to handle emergencies involving people with special needs (children and adults). |
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RMNC
Joined: 21 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:54 am Post subject: |
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The kid had a sharp object. He had it coming. You better believe I'd pepper spray a 2 year-old if it was a threat.
"Whatever happened to crazy?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQilqOveh2s |
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:31 am Post subject: |
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| RMNC wrote: |
| The kid had a sharp object. |
Every kid I teach has a pencil, access to scissors and in Korea....many of them have box cutters!  You don't see me running in fear. |
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RMNC
Joined: 21 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:58 am Post subject: |
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| Thank god for the spirit- and hope-crushing Confucian system, they would never try something like this. |
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:54 am Post subject: |
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Except for that guy who killed his teacher from 20 years ago.
All I'm saying is that the mom needs to step it up. The teachers should have been better trained. And the police should be more prepared to deal with people with special needs. |
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Gnawbert
Joined: 23 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:31 am Post subject: |
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I wasn't there but from the article I'd say the police were well within their rights to use pepper spray on him. The only thing disgusting about this whole ordeal is the way the mom's whoring her kid out to the media like some kind of victim.
Here's another article on it:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110407/ap_on_re_us/us_child_pepper_sprayed
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He had just thrown a TV and chairs and was now trying to use a cart to bust through a door to an office where teachers had taken some young students for safety.
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The officers found him with a foot-long piece of wood trim with a knife-like point in one hand and a cardboard box in the other.
"Come get me, f-----," he said.
When they couldn't calm him down, one squirted Aidan with pepper spray. He blocked it with the cardboard box.
A second squirt hit the youngster in the side of the head, and down he went, according to an account of the Feb. 22 standoff in a police report first obtained by KUSA-TV.
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It wasn't the first time officers had been called to pacify Aidan, Davis said. They'd been able to talk him down in two other incidents.
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When asked about the pepper spray and what he did, Aidan said: "I kind of deserved it."
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According to the report, Mandy Elliott asked her son what he did.
When he told her he had been hit with pepper spray, she is quoted as saying, "Well, you probably deserved it."
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rumdiary
Joined: 05 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| If the cops had rushed him and tried to get the stick away there is a good chance he would have been injured. Pepper spray hurts but the pain goes away without leaving any injury. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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| RMNC wrote: |
| Thank god for the spirit- and hope-crushing Confucian system, they would never try something like this. |
I dunno about these days...There was a video that came out about two years ago where some high school kid was harassing his teacher as the whole classroom looked like something out of a rap video combined with the movie High School High. Complete anarchy.
http://briandeutsch.blogspot.com/2010/12/video-of-students-harassing-teacher.html
EDIT- I would completely disagree with Brain's assertions in the article. Such behavior is not par for the course with many English teachers, the problem is that English teachers seem unwilling to discipline such behavior. In our circle of NETs there are some that always gripe about student behavior and some that don't. The ones that don't always ask the ones that do "What do you do to discipline them?" and hte answer is either they don't want to/are afraid to/or they just yell. It's not the school that is forcing them to be friendly, it is also them trying to be "cool and friendly with the kids". They want to be liked, not respected. Also such behavior, at least in my school, was growing increasingly common both before and after the ban in Korean teachers classrooms. Also this behavior is increasingly common around the world. I mean, its high school. High Schoolers are horny. Bombard them with sexually-themed music videos and video games and what do you expect? And lastly, since such behavior is common place in many High Schools back home, it has nothing to do with the Hagwon schedule. That video is merely a reflection of popular culture, money, and liberalization.
Seriously, the only thing the video needed was some kid walking by smoking a five-paper joint while slamming some malt liquor out of a brown paper bag.
That kind of situation right there is actually why corporal punishment is necessary. Harassment or threats of violence against teachers.
You're starting to get the spoiled generation in there who isn't always stressed over school 24-7 because they will have "a future" anyways. If they don't get into some good K-University, their family will just send them abroad to some decent Uni or cut a check to some school here.
That and you also have the kids who have just flat out given up and are just going through the motions. |
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