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GoldMember
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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 Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:39 pm Post subject: Guilty Until Proven Innocent |
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If you watch Korean news you'll often see crime reports. In these reports the Police have caught someone (often the crime was caught on cctv, so catching the perp is a no brainer), and the media are invited into the police station to film this person. Now the person may have been charged with an offence, but there has yet to be a trial. The person is guilty even before the trial (often a rubber stamp formality in Korea).
It is common for suspects in all countries to be filmed by the media, but to actually invite the media into a police station to film a suspect is a flagrant abuse of justice.
Such media exposure puts pressure on Judges to convict. (There are no juries!).
Spoken to a few Koreans about this and they see nothing wrong with this practice.
Makes you wonder who the real criminals are. |
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Hyeon Een
Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm pretty sure the conviction rate for people arrested for a crime is something like 99%. Prosecutors don't prosecute unless they know they're going to win. Jury trials are very rare. Basically if someone is arrested, the trial and so forth is just a formality. So they might as well put it on the news haha. |
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Mr. Peabody
Joined: 24 Sep 2010
Location: here
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| But they never show the suspect's face or give out their name. So I don't see what you're getting at. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:20 pm Post subject: Re: Guilty Until Proven Innocent |
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| GoldMember wrote: |
If you watch Korean news you'll often see crime reports. In these reports the Police have caught someone (often the crime was caught on cctv, so catching the perp is a no brainer), and the media are invited into the police station to film this person. Now the person may have been charged with an offence, but there has yet to be a trial. The person is guilty even before the trial (often a rubber stamp formality in Korea).
It is common for suspects in all countries to be filmed by the media, but to actually invite the media into a police station to film a suspect is a flagrant abuse of justice.
Such media exposure puts pressure on Judges to convict. (There are no juries!).
Spoken to a few Koreans about this and they see nothing wrong with this practice.
Makes you wonder who the real criminals are. |
You must be American.
A very LARGE portion of the planet uses the old "civil Law" type of justice and guilty until proven innocent is common in practice if not in law in about 150 countries around the planet.
It is only under the old British system that innocence until proven guilty came to be and pretty much only in the commonwealth (with a few notable exceptions like the USA (still old British roots) and her dependencies (past and present) that you would be presumed innocent until after trial.
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methdxman
Joined: 14 Sep 2010
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: Guilty Until Proven Innocent |
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| GoldMember wrote: |
If you watch Korean news you'll often see crime reports. In these reports the Police have caught someone (often the crime was caught on cctv, so catching the perp is a no brainer), and the media are invited into the police station to film this person. Now the person may have been charged with an offence, but there has yet to be a trial. The person is guilty even before the trial (often a rubber stamp formality in Korea).
It is common for suspects in all countries to be filmed by the media, but to actually invite the media into a police station to film a suspect is a flagrant abuse of justice.
Such media exposure puts pressure on Judges to convict. (There are no juries!).
Spoken to a few Koreans about this and they see nothing wrong with this practice.
Makes you wonder who the real criminals are. |
Is this the first time you've ever been outside of the U.S.? It is right? Just checking. |
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NohopeSeriously
Joined: 17 Jan 2011
Location: The Christian Right-Wing Educational Republic of Korea
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| The Korean justice system is a huge mess. This is why cops are called Jjapsae (lit. "cheap mutts" in Korean). |
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NovaKart
Joined: 18 Nov 2009
Location: Iraq
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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| For those familiar with American TV, I think Nancy Grace does similar things. I remember her playing a phone conversation between an inmate and her mother on her show and justifying it by saying that jail phone conversations are not private. She definitely convicts people in the court of public opinion. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Not concerning the guilty until proven innocent thing, but I also think it very weird that TV crews can come into the police station HQ offices and film. You'll also see film crews in the living rooms of the grieving relatives of murder victims just hours after they found out themselves..... |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada
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짭새 is a kind of bird, last I heard.
Koreans do not respect police. That much is evident in society.
| NohopeSeriously wrote: |
| The Korean justice system is a huge mess. This is why cops are called Jjapsae (lit. "cheap mutts" in Korean). |
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Louis VI
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| Koreans do not respect police. That much is evident in society. |
I laugh  and I laugh and I laugh when I think about how worried I was before coming here that Korea would be a police state. They sleep in their cars, they avoid conflict and defer to elders, they rush waygook drivers through checkstops, they are oblivious to their surroundings half the time I see them, and the other half of the time their intervention is met with frowns and outbursts which they submissively or tolerantly accept. No kickin' asses or takin' names around here!
I fear taxi drivers waaaay more than police officers in South Korea. Though a couple of immi officers at Incheon are high on gestapo right wing fantasy militant tactics. |
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