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The Loneliness of the Civil Libertarian Feminist
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English Matt



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
Ya-ta Boy wrote:
A lot of this nonsense would stop if there were two or three Lorena Bobbits at Yale. Consequences to actions often have a clarifying effect.


EnglishMatt (with minor edits):
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And then we can all have a good laugh about {men} being violently {assulted} to the point that their reproductive organs suffer permanent damage.

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If you think that is the sort of joke that should be tolerated and worse if you find it funny, then you are sick.


I assume EM will be going to the mods again?

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OK, here's a funny video. Well, funny to me:

Dear Woman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_uRIMUBnvw

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I completely agree with her that the war against sexism (and racism, and drug use, and many other things for that matter) has completely over-stepped its bounds.


We're at war with ourselves, and a bunch of nations too. We're very unhealthy.


If you guys start making jokes about how it would be great if women were raped until their reproductive organs are damaged, then sure I'll be going to the mods again. I think it's quite sad that you guys can't see that you crossed a line. It is also very pathetic that you would use another thread to try and get at me.

I didn't get the other thread locked, you guys did!
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Koveras



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt, your negativity is interfering with our feminine energy groupwork.
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

English Matt wrote:
I think it's quite sad that you guys can't see that you crossed a line.


You guys? One person made the joke. And then you decided to take it upon yourself to clean up "our" acts.

Its okay, I know you're going to lock this thread because of Ya-Ta's joke about how best to respond to harassment speech. I mean, this thread is really all about how to handle offensive speech. Its not about you in particular.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There has always been a divide in the feminist camp between gender and equity feminists, the former opposing pornography and sex work, and the latter in favor.
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English Matt



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
English Matt wrote:
I think it's quite sad that you guys can't see that you crossed a line.


You guys? One person made the joke. And then you decided to take it upon yourself to clean up "our" acts.

Its okay, I know you're going to lock this thread because of Ya-Ta's joke about how best to respond to harassment speech. I mean, this thread is really all about how to handle offensive speech. Its not about you in particular.


You don't want me popping up in threads like this, then don't bring up my name. I'm like the candyman, if my name appears 3 times in a thread I'm not even involved in then of course I'm going to appear.


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mises



Joined: 05 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you guys start making jokes about how it would be great if women were raped until their reproductive organs are damaged, then sure I'll be going to the mods again.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cdiz0k0Rudw

On and on and on we go
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mises



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm like the candyman


Ha. You made me laugh. The last male I called candyman was a dude who started crying in a bar after a girl threw a drink on him.

If you find something objectionable, go ahead and tell us why. Make a case. We'll either agree or disagree. Feminism isn't a regular topic in these parts. You'll not have to show up often. Demanding mods stop conversations you don't like is, well, what'd you say about candy?
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recessiontime



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this calls for:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsegTiuEoq8
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English Matt



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
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I'm like the candyman


Ha. You made me laugh. The last male I called candyman was a dude who started crying in a bar after a girl threw a drink on him.

If you find something objectionable, go ahead and tell us why. Make a case. We'll either agree or disagree. Feminism isn't a regular topic in these parts. You'll not have to show up often. Demanding mods stop conversations you don't like is, well, what'd you say about candy?


And the last guy who said something like this to me had a tiny manhood. Seriously we could all go on slinging insults at eachother until this thread gets locked, or you can get back to the discussion and leave me out of it. You brought me into this thread and are now turning it into a flaming session.
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mises



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How did you know he had a tiny manhood? Why did a naked guy call you a candyass?

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Now, you're going to have to learn to live with the fact that different people have different opinions. Different people have different ideas of humor and their boundaries of what amuses them. Even the most murderous, totalitarian governments have not been able to end diversity of thought. Having threads locked on a site nobody knows about does not in any meaningful way improve the world.
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English Matt



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
How did you know he had a tiny manhood? Why did a naked guy call you a candyass?

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Now, you're going to have to learn to live with the fact that different people have different opinions. Different people have different ideas of humor and their boundaries of what amuses them. Even the most murderous, totalitarian governments have not been able to end diversity of thought. Having threads locked on a site nobody knows about does not in any meaningful way improve the world.


Your insults no longer even make sense. Your choice, you can have your discussion or you can continue making this thread about me.

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caniff



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Madigan wrote:
mises wrote:


OK, here's a funny video. Well, funny to me:

Dear Woman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_uRIMUBnvw


That video wasn't funny, it was nauseating. Were they serious? I hope not.


I made it to about 2 and a half minutes (until the old guy started apologizing for his gender.)
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mises



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hitchens:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3Hg-Y7MugU

The urge to control speech is something I'll never understand.
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English Matt



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
Hitchens:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3Hg-Y7MugU

The urge to control speech is something I'll never understand.


There is a difference between expressing an opinion and simply being abusive. For instance, here in Germany you are not allowed to swear at another person....it is illegal and quite rightly so as it is simply threatening speech and nothing to do with expressing an opinion.
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caniff



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

George Carlin talks about testosterone:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsZfpBkgtjI
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