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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oppa wrote:
crossmr wrote:
robinsoncrusoe wrote:
crossmr wrote:
On an F4 you can work at anything basically. Any industry (other than the "entertainment" industry), own businesses, etc. Those are the benefits of the F-series (2, 4, 5)
Sure you could stay in English and make a decent buck by piling up various part time jobs and privates, or if you wanted you could get into something else and if you have great Korean skills you could certainly get into another industry as a bilingual worker. You could do foreign relations, translation, etc.

The only thing to keep in mind is that you'd have to work like a Korean in those jobs, so you might be putting in a lot more hours than you would working in ESL.

If you did some networking you might be able to land yourself a nice job with a small/medium business looking overseas who needs a bilingual worker with knowledge of western culture to work for them, could be worth a decent buck.


This is great advice, thanks. I'll look into all of these opportunities. I guess I can't carry out my plan to become a famous idol singer on an f4, but ah well Wink
Also, just wanted to say: I finally got an offer and have accepted!


Sure, you could become an idol singer, entertainment is fine. "Entertainment" is not fine..



actually I think it is.

I recently read a story in the Korea Times how there a ton of "host clubs" operating in Gangnam and oft visited by Korean females. As with hostess clubs, extra "entertainment" can be had. The legislature is trying to write a law, because the current ones all assume such "hostesses" are female, and the cops have no legal mechanism to go after the male "hosts".

I want to become a host in one of those Gangnam clubs. I think I'd do pretty well, but they're going to try to make it illegal.

A- holes! Evil or Very Mad


It's legal, they can't go after hostesses either. It's just the one exception to the F-visa employment rule is that you can't work in a place like a brothel, kissing room, host(ess) bar, etc. I remember last year someone quoted the actual legislation on it. I'm paraphrasing it now.
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Oppa



Joined: 05 Apr 2011

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:
Oppa wrote:
crossmr wrote:
robinsoncrusoe wrote:
crossmr wrote:
On an F4 you can work at anything basically. Any industry (other than the "entertainment" industry), own businesses, etc. Those are the benefits of the F-series (2, 4, 5)
Sure you could stay in English and make a decent buck by piling up various part time jobs and privates, or if you wanted you could get into something else and if you have great Korean skills you could certainly get into another industry as a bilingual worker. You could do foreign relations, translation, etc.

The only thing to keep in mind is that you'd have to work like a Korean in those jobs, so you might be putting in a lot more hours than you would working in ESL.

If you did some networking you might be able to land yourself a nice job with a small/medium business looking overseas who needs a bilingual worker with knowledge of western culture to work for them, could be worth a decent buck.


This is great advice, thanks. I'll look into all of these opportunities. I guess I can't carry out my plan to become a famous idol singer on an f4, but ah well Wink
Also, just wanted to say: I finally got an offer and have accepted!


Sure, you could become an idol singer, entertainment is fine. "Entertainment" is not fine..



actually I think it is.

I recently read a story in the Korea Times how there a ton of "host clubs" operating in Gangnam and oft visited by Korean females. As with hostess clubs, extra "entertainment" can be had. The legislature is trying to write a law, because the current ones all assume such "hostesses" are female, and the cops have no legal mechanism to go after the male "hosts".

I want to become a host in one of those Gangnam clubs. I think I'd do pretty well, but they're going to try to make it illegal.

A- holes! Evil or Very Mad


It's legal, they can't go after hostesses either. It's just the one exception to the F-visa employment rule is that you can't work in a place like a brothel, kissing room, host(ess) bar, etc. I remember last year someone quoted the actual legislation on it. I'm paraphrasing it now.


well I'm pretty sure brothels are now illegal (at least officially) after all the American moralist whining so working there wouldn't be permissible for anyone. But they're writing a law for the host clubs, it was mentioned in the KT article. I'd really like to give that a shot as like I said, I think I'd do well Very Happy

on a slight tangent, one of my favorite countries is Brazil, which refused a Bush W administration AIDS grant because it came attached with prostitution provisions, which Brazil rejected (it's legal there).
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robinsoncrusoe



Joined: 22 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oppa wrote:
on a slight tangent, one of my favorite countries is Brazil, which refused a Bush W administration AIDS grant because it came attached with prostitution provisions, which Brazil rejected (it's legal there).


on a related tangent, Brazil just became my favorite place in the world.
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serasera



Joined: 28 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wishfullthinkng wrote:
i'm on an F4 and after taking an extended vacation i took a hagwon job in korea to try and meet more koreans (oh what a failure that was) and it took me all of a week to find the job. finding it wasn't even planned, it was more of a spur of the moment type thing. there are TONS of posts on craigslist looking for gyopo teachers.

as for other opportunities, the recruiter is correct, there are tons. i now have a 9-5 at a korean corporation and could not be happier. granted they modeled the working environment after the US (no hwoeshicks, i can leave before my boss, only 5 day working weeks, i can come in almost any time i want, etc.)

my old hagwon was quite an experience (i only stayed for 3 months) but an experience i never wish to repeat.


How did you land on that job? I'm on F4 and can speak both Korean and English, I'm getting pretty tired of teaching...
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Tigerstyleone



Joined: 01 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you rap? Can you learn dance rountines?

I know a gyopo named Jessica. She's in a girl group. I think she's doing ok, but now sure about her contract or salary.
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Whitey Otez



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: The suburbs of Seoul

PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I am pretty naive. I assumed the interviewer was implying that you could do loads of privates for more cash on the side. By which I meant private tutoring of English. Wink
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pikadoopoo



Joined: 19 May 2011

PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2011 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tigerstyleone wrote:
Can you rap? Can you learn dance rountines?

I know a gyopo named Jessica. She's in a girl group. I think she's doing ok, but now sure about her contract or salary.

Jessica... of Girls' Generation? Laughing

Sad to hear that there are still many schools that prefer "all-American-looking" teachers.

The posts in this thread are really helpful.
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