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Madigan
Joined: 15 Oct 2010
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 Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| Interesting discussion. I've just recently joined a gym. The PTs there actually told me that I was running too much at 5 to 10km/day 5 days per week. They said I should be doing more resistance training if I really wanted to lose weight. A quick anecdote: I am right now 5ft11/180cm and 176lbs/80kg. I remember before when I was in school, I would do strength training everyday and was on what I call the Gazpacho diet. By that, I mean I was eating gazpacho for dinner five days a week and a lunch with lots of meats. My weight plummeted. I was only about 155lbs at the time. Changing my habits again. Looking to ditch the smart stuff crap that I eat every morning, and moving to a smoothie breakfast that is based on fruits, berries in particular. Although, I need a milk base for the smoothie. IS soy milk okay? I really don't know. I also take Omega-3 and vitamin supplements (roughly 600IUs of Vitamin D per day.) Again, heavy on meats for lunch and gazpacho for dinner. If it worked last time, I cannot see why it would not work again. |
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Space Bar
Joined: 20 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:35 am Post subject: |
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| Madigan wrote: |
| Interesting discussion. I've just recently joined a gym. The PTs there actually told me that I was running too much at 5 to 10km/day 5 days per week. They said I should be doing more resistance training if I really wanted to lose weight. A quick anecdote: I am right now 5ft11/180cm and 176lbs/80kg. I remember before when I was in school, I would do strength training everyday and was on what I call the Gazpacho diet. By that, I mean I was eating gazpacho for dinner five days a week and a lunch with lots of meats. My weight plummeted. I was only about 155lbs at the time. Changing my habits again. Looking to ditch the smart stuff crap that I eat every morning, and moving to a smoothie breakfast that is based on fruits, berries in particular. Although, I need a milk base for the smoothie. IS soy milk okay? I really don't know. I also take Omega-3 and vitamin supplements (roughly 600IUs of Vitamin D per day.) Again, heavy on meats for lunch and gazpacho for dinner. If it worked last time, I cannot see why it would not work again. |
Your Gazpacho diet sounds awesome although, of course, you must supplement it.
Soy milk is much, much better for you than cow's milk, unless you are a baby cow. Soy milk is rich in isoflavones which are natural antioxidants which protect against heart disease, cancer, and prostate problems.
Did you mean to write "6000 IUs"? Because that is what you should be taking as a general rule. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:50 am Post subject: |
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| You don't need 6000 IUs in the springtime or summer. 6000 IUs is for winter. |
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Madigan
Joined: 15 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| Space Bar wrote: |
| Did you mean to write "6000 IUs"? Because that is what you should be taking as a general rule. |
Yes, I ate a lot of gazpacho, and my weight fell rather fast, faster than I expected anyway. It's Spring and we are going into Summer so it may be a good idea to restart it. It says 150%, 600IUs, of Vit D under the nutrition information on my supplement pills.
Here is my supplement. This too. |
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Caffeinated
Joined: 11 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:10 am Post subject: |
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| Just try to eat a sorta balanced meal every time you eat. And just eat LESS. |
Eat a variety of foods with every meal. Also, you'll have an easier time eating less if you eat frequently, every 2-3 hours. People often deprive themselves then go on a binge which undoes what they accomplished, and more.
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| I've just recently joined a gym. The PTs there actually told me that I was running too much at 5 to 10km/day 5 days per week. They said I should be doing more resistance training if I really wanted to lose weight. |
Yes. The secret is to build muscle to get a higher calorie burning rate even when not physically active.
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| Looking to ditch the smart stuff crap that I eat every morning, and moving to a smoothie breakfast that is based on fruits, berries in particular. Although, I need a milk base for the smoothie. IS soy milk okay? I really don't know. |
Try yogurt. A milk/dairy base isn't really essential for a smoothie. I mix a liquid (juice and/or yogurt), fruit (frozen or fresh), bananas to thicken, ice cubes to make it refreshing, and egg whites for extra protein as an option.
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| Again, heavy on meats for lunch and gazpacho for dinner. If it worked last time, I cannot see why it would not work again. |
Your body will be grateful if you add a bit more variety to every meal, and a bit of meat and fat during your gazpacho dinner may help you feel fuller longer. |
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Madigan
Joined: 15 Oct 2010
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| Caffeinated wrote: |
| Try yogurt. A milk/dairy base isn't really essential for a smoothie. I mix a liquid (juice and/or yogurt), fruit (frozen or fresh), bananas to thicken, ice cubes to make it refreshing, and egg whites for extra protein as an option. |
I just switched this morning. My smoothie was:
1. 1-cup blueberries;
2. 1-cup strawberries;
3. A Glass of vanilla flavored soy milk; and
4. 1.5 cups of ice.
The ice made it thick enough. I have no complaints and it tasted very good.
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| Your body will be grateful if you add a bit more variety to every meal, and a bit of meat and fat during your gazpacho dinner may help you feel fuller longer. |
Yeah, that is the problem. I always used to take my gazpacho with a couple pieces of whole wheat bread. However, it seems what is being recommended is that we should avoid foods heavy in carbohydrates, such as bread. I don't know. Maybe a small plate of beef & broccoli with the soup, but I never really feel like cooking even more food. I'll have to figure something out on how to make the gazpacho dinner more filling. |
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mises
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UknowsI
Joined: 16 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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I found the article quite arrogant. He said: "Through years of trial and error � and humiliation at the hands of some of the world�s top trainers � the author discovered the secrets to real health", why didn't you try picking up a 40 year old P.E. textbook instead? This is the stuff my average 50 year old high school teacher had been teaching for ages, where did he get the idea that it's secrets? I understand that the title is just for getting attention, but I find it as the peak of his arrogance. Too much bashing of other types of exercise as if his method is the only one which gives results. |
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Caffeinated
Joined: 11 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Madigan wrote: |
| Caffeinated wrote: |
| Your body will be grateful if you add a bit more variety to every meal, and a bit of meat and fat during your gazpacho dinner may help you feel fuller longer. |
Yeah, that is the problem. I always used to take my gazpacho with a couple pieces of whole wheat bread. However, it seems what is being recommended is that we should avoid foods heavy in carbohydrates, such as bread. I don't know. Maybe a small plate of beef & broccoli with the soup, but I never really feel like cooking even more food. I'll have to figure something out on how to make the gazpacho dinner more filling. |
They're pricier, but when I was pressed for time I'd buy salads in a bag, add some shredded cabbage, steamed chicken breast (pre-cook and refrigerate) and some oil-based dressing. Another quick side dish would be microwaved broccoli with cheese.
Your smoothie sounds delish. Check your portion size tho. |
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loose_ends
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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Lot's of misinformation going on here, and just straight up bad eating habits.
My specs,
age: 31
height: 5-10
weight: 170 pounds
9% body fat
My eating plan
-->5-6 small meals a day (350-450 calories each)
Protein:
beef, chicken, pork, fish, eggs,
Dairy:
skim milk, non-fat yogurt
Carbs:
brown rice, oatmeal, yams, sprouted grain bread, veggies, fruit
Fat:
olive oil, avocado, nuts, butter
Banned foods from my diet:
-anything processed, cheese
So when I go shopping I basically buy all the foods that are around the edges of the supermarket and rarely go in the middle.
Reducing complex carbs from your diet is a huge no-no, at least if you work out. Replacing processed carbs with whole carbs is the way to go.
Other than yogurt, milk, and bread, I never buy food that is composed of more than one ingredient. |
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Louis VI
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
Location: In my Kingdom
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| Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| So when I go shopping I basically buy all the foods that are around the edges of the supermarket and rarely go in the middle. |
That was the way I was raised. The aisles are for beans, split peas, salt, pepper, oil, tea and nuts (and nonfood items like soap and toiletries). Poor me, my friends thought, as they wolfed down macaroni and powdered cheese product, canned soups, boxed sugary snacks and bagged chips.
Fresh meat (when we don't go to an independent butcher shop), fresh fruit, fresh veggies, fresh bread (wen we don't go to the independent bakery), fresh milk and sour cream, fresh eggs, quality cheeses, these are just the things expected by a father who grew up in the 1930s. The fridge was fuller than the cupboards, with weekly shopping trips instead of once or twice a month jaunts.
I power through the supermarkets pretty quickly here in South Korea, and don't at all pay attention to price, getting exactly what I want, the price be damned. No need to pinch pennies since rent isn't paid here and the salary is more than enough to buy all that I want and still pocket a thousand or more dollars a month. Humans have never had it so good, from a material resources point of view, and I make sure I appreciate what I have, my cup runneth over, foodwise.  |
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Koveras
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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| O for the days when there were no "eating plans" and people were just happy with a hot meal. |
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loose_ends
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Koveras wrote: |
| O for the days when there were no "eating plans" and people were just happy with a hot meal. |
Nothing wrong, IMO, with wanting to look good and feel the same 
I find your statement to be ironic. In "the days" you speak of, and I'm thinking my grandparent's generation, they were eating the exact same diet I strive to maintain: whole foods, no processed shit. Unfortunately my parents generation and mine, were bombarded with crap food. So in a way, I'm trying to get back to those days. Unfortunately I need to be extremely aware of what I eat because most of my choices at a grocery store or restaurant are total crap. Perhaps when I raise my kids on whole unprocessed foods they won't need "plans" to help guide them with their nutrition. Perhaps it'll just be natural to them. |
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Koveras
Joined: 09 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| loose_ends wrote: |
| Koveras wrote: |
| O for the days when there were no "eating plans" and people were just happy with a hot meal. |
Nothing wrong, IMO, with wanting to look good and feel the same
I find your statement to be ironic. In "the days" you speak of, and I'm thinking my grandparent's generation, they were eating the exact same diet I strive to maintain: whole foods, no processed shit. Unfortunately my parents generation and mine, were bombarded with crap food. So in a way, I'm trying to get back to those days. Unfortunately I need to be extremely aware of what I eat because most of my choices at a grocery store or restaurant are total crap. Perhaps when I raise my kids on whole unprocessed foods they won't need "plans" to help guide them with their nutrition. Perhaps it'll just be natural to them. |
Oh. I stopped reading at "five to six small meals per day". |
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loose_ends
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Koveras wrote: |
| loose_ends wrote: |
| Koveras wrote: |
| O for the days when there were no "eating plans" and people were just happy with a hot meal. |
Nothing wrong, IMO, with wanting to look good and feel the same
I find your statement to be ironic. In "the days" you speak of, and I'm thinking my grandparent's generation, they were eating the exact same diet I strive to maintain: whole foods, no processed shit. Unfortunately my parents generation and mine, were bombarded with crap food. So in a way, I'm trying to get back to those days. Unfortunately I need to be extremely aware of what I eat because most of my choices at a grocery store or restaurant are total crap. Perhaps when I raise my kids on whole unprocessed foods they won't need "plans" to help guide them with their nutrition. Perhaps it'll just be natural to them. |
Oh. I stopped reading at "five to six small meals per day". |
Well thanks for being honest...feel free to read on |
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