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RMNC

Joined: 21 Jul 2010
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:16 am Post subject: |
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Also, getting a job in Seoul for a first timer is 100% doable and easy. Half of the entire country lives there. The demand for teachers there (regardless of where you're from) is still perfectly high. People who complain about not being able to find work are either terrible at it or don't know what they're doing. I'm a white American male and I had 0 teaching experience but still got a central Seoul job easily. Don't settle for a job in Gyeonggi-do if you're looking to have the most fun possible. Many people will roll their eyes at me, but I think it's true:
Remember "Cohiba's Rule" (Now better than ever!):
Think twice before you live outside of Seoul. "In Seoul" and
"outside of Seoul" are like two different countries. Seoul
is an interesting place with variety and venues for most
tastes. Outside of Seoul you will find a homogeneous Korean
culture. I don't mean this in a bad way, but you will never
find things like: French, Greek, Indian or any other ethnic
foods. Markets that sell sherry, pate, pastrami, ricotta cheese.
Specialty shops that sell cuban cigars, European pies, cold
cuts or rye breads. Just to name a few things.
The FFF RULE: FFF=Fun For Foreigners.
If FFF in Seoul = 100, then FFF decreases at
1/distance. So 2km from Seoul FFF=1/2(100)=50;
10km from Seoul FFF=1/10(100)=10. This rule is
a rule for nightlife, food and foreign products only.
Nature etc. is on a different scale altogether.
This means you will be wasting a lot of time commuting
to Seoul. This is especially a drag if you have been
boozing on a Friday night and there are no buses or
trains. |
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CarolinaTHeels
Joined: 07 Apr 2011
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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Awesome info! Much appreciated!
I left for Colombia yest and didnt have anytime to get the FBI stuff done before I left as i just decided to do this Korea thing right before I left. Im def making things more complicated with my time crunch im gonna have!
In your opinion if I cant find anything in central seoul what other areas of the city should I consider? Im 24 so i dont wanna be too far from the things i enjoy like movies, gym, park, nightlife, girls ect. |
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cyui
Joined: 10 Jan 2011
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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Really? That 'fff" equation about to change up real quick yo':
OP- How was Columbia? Travel reqs? |
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CarolinaTHeels
Joined: 07 Apr 2011
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| colombia is fun! all u need is a passport if your an american. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| cyui wrote: |
Airfare is a negotiable point of a no-biggie interest.
Re experience: Used to be the "exchange" point, but not so much in presentism 'value".
ok so bye bye..  |
Good luck to an inexperienced teacher coming over to Korea and getting a school to reimburse airfare and pay for a visa run (which you may have to go back to your home country for anyway). Terrible, terrible advice. |
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RMNC

Joined: 21 Jul 2010
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| CarolinaTHeels wrote: |
Awesome info! Much appreciated!
I left for Colombia yest and didnt have anytime to get the FBI stuff done before I left as i just decided to do this Korea thing right before I left. Im def making things more complicated with my time crunch im gonna have!
In your opinion if I cant find anything in central seoul what other areas of the city should I consider? Im 24 so i dont wanna be too far from the things i enjoy like movies, gym, park, nightlife, girls ect. |
You can still get in for August but you'll only have about a month to find a job and get everything in order.
I thought you were leaving on Monday? Is it still impossible for you to get fingerprints done? Are you still in the US? If so you can go to a sheriff's office to get them done, and then you can send it to a relative to mail to the FBI with a CBC application and a cashier's check for $18. If you can't then you are going to be delayed at least two weeks. Let's say you get back and mail your fingerprints, application and check on the 1st of May. You can probably get the CBC back by late June. You can have everything apostilled by mid July, and then you can finally start looking for work. Let's say it takes 2 weeks to find a good job, you can probably sign a contract by early August and be on the plane in mid August. That's if everything goes as planned and nothing goes wrong along the way. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:02 am Post subject: |
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| CarolinaTHeels wrote: |
| In your opinion if I cant find anything in central seoul what other areas of the city should I consider? Im 24 so i dont wanna be too far from the things i enjoy like movies, gym, park, nightlife, girls ect. |
There isn't really such a thing as central Seoul. The city is absolute sprawl with different pockets of cool stuff. The northwestern part of the city has the highest concentration of cool stuff, but if you find a job anywhere in Seoul you'll be pretty good. What's far more relevant is distance to a subway station. You want to avoid being anywhere that requires you to take a bus to get to the train.
It bears mentioning that the most expensive taxi you're going to get going anywhere in Seoul at any time of night is going to be about 15,000 if they run the meter, so you're pretty golden regardless.
Even living in the suburbs, as I do (Anyang), I have all those things you mention readily available. Certain suburbs are really no different from Seoul in terms of your everyday lifestyle, you're just a bit farther from Hongdae/Itae/Kangnam. |
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RMNC

Joined: 21 Jul 2010
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:23 am Post subject: |
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| True, being within 10 minutes walking distance from a subway stop really opens up the possibilities. Heck, riding the subway is fun and an experience in and of itself. I would wager however, that if you get put out too far northeast in Seoul you're going to find it a little less "fun" than the northwest or south of the river. South of the river is "newer" and nicer in general, while the Northwest has Itaewon and the Hongdae area, as well as Yonsei university. Not counting Gangnam, I would say that the northwest is the nightlife center of Seoul. Either way, as long as you are close to the green line, you're relatively safe as far as entertainment goes. |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:36 am Post subject: |
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| RMNC wrote: |
| True, being within 10 minutes walking distance from a subway stop really opens up the possibilities. Heck, riding the subway is fun and an experience in and of itself. I would wager however, that if you get put out too far northeast in Seoul you're going to find it a little less "fun" than the northwest or south of the river. South of the river is "newer" and nicer in general, while the Northwest has Itaewon and the Hongdae area, as well as Yonsei university. Not counting Gangnam, I would say that the northwest is the nightlife center of Seoul. Either way, as long as you are close to the green line, you're relatively safe as far as entertainment goes. |
Or Line 4. |
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cyui
Joined: 10 Jan 2011
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:45 am Post subject: |
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Negotiable as hell man.
He can work on a tourist visa and then "hit" an F-series up later.
As long as your monetary interests are there, who cares? |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 6:43 am Post subject: |
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Nowhere does the OP suggest that he's kyopo. Are you suggesting that he stick around Korea until marriage, all while working on tourist visas, until he gets married and qualifies for an F-visa?
Generally I ignore your more ridiculous posts, but when you're giving godawful advice I feel the need to step in. |
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cyui
Joined: 10 Jan 2011
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:05 am Post subject: |
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No i wasn't thinking that it was one..just though it would be easier then trying to wait for the E-2 process..
Yeah, marriage or whatever kind of investment it takes' to get self-sponser.\
It is a big thing so no need to intervene
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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| cyui wrote: |
| Yeah, marriage or whatever kind of investment it takes' to get self-sponser.\ |
Previously 50 million won, now 100 million won? Right. |
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cyui
Joined: 10 Jan 2011
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Whatever man. :shock: ;Leave it alone. |
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sirius black
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:00 am Post subject: |
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OP, just to add (or remove) some of the advice that's already been given. Don't give up on a public school job. It can't hurt to try and you more vacation time and generally work less teaching hours than most hogwons. I've heard however that SMOE, the organization that hires teachers require an unofficial 3.0 gpa though.
Use multiple recruiters but do try for a public school job. Also, NEVER accept a job unless you can talk to a prior teacher. Especially if you've worked for a hogwon. I would also stay clear of any job that requires you to teach kindergarten. It is sometimes tough work for a first timer. Usually but there are exceptions.
I rarely post about other members but that I'd put that cyui character on ignore. I would also ignore that Cohiba's rule thingy as well. Someone always brings that up and its inaccurate and usually posted by someone who has never worked or lived outside of Seoul. First timers like to graviate towards Seoul and Busan and its completely undersandable but there are other cities of size (Deagu, Daejeon, Kwangju to name only a few) that have great schools and great people and you can enjoy life as much and sometimes more. There are 1000s of foreigners who live great, fun and rewarding lives in cities other than Seoul or Busan. I am one of them. Not taking anything away from the aforementioned cities. Great places that I love visiting and have been to many times.
No matter where you end up two things will make or break your stay here if you're a normal, well adjusted person (note the prerequiste). 1. Your job. If it sucks, life will suck. Make that your first and primary focus. 2. The friends you have here. Your friends can make a small or boring place bearable and even fun. Choose wisely. You could get that job in Seoul and meet and befriend some folks who you shouldn't. |
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