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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:49 pm Post subject: Chain Restaurant decline? |
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I am wondering i your areas are also seeing a mass-closing of big chains. My area is.
The main road opened a new Paris Baguette and Tous Les Jours near a few small bakeries. I expected a slaughter. In actuality, the Paris and Tous closed. In the same week. Also, another small Paris Baguette closed inside the station.
I have also seen a few Baskin Robbins close recently. |
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definitely maybe
Joined: 16 Feb 2008
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:58 pm Post subject: Re: Chain Restaurant decline? |
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BoholDiver wrote: |
I am wondering i your areas are also seeing a mass-closing of big chains. My area is.
The main road opened a new Paris Baguette and Tous Les Jours near a few small bakeries. I expected a slaughter. In actuality, the Paris and Tous closed. In the same week. Also, another small Paris Baguette closed inside the station.
I have also seen a few Baskin Robbins close recently. |
There are three or four Paris Baguettes, two Tous Les Jours, and a Crown Bakery within a ten minute walk of my apartment. The way they pile similar franchises up so close to each other, some are bound to eventually fold. Baskin Robbins closing surprises me a bit though. |
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definitely maybe
Joined: 16 Feb 2008
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:58 pm Post subject: Re: Chain Restaurant decline? |
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BoholDiver wrote: |
I am wondering i your areas are also seeing a mass-closing of big chains. My area is.
The main road opened a new Paris Baguette and Tous Les Jours near a few small bakeries. I expected a slaughter. In actuality, the Paris and Tous closed. In the same week. Also, another small Paris Baguette closed inside the station.
I have also seen a few Baskin Robbins close recently. |
There are three or four Paris Baguettes, two Tous Les Jours, and a Crown Bakery within a ten minute walk of my apartment. The way they pile similar franchises up so close to each other, some are bound to eventually fold. Baskin Robbins closing surprises me a bit though. |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Suddenly several businesses in one building will change or disappear. It is partly due to their rent contracts coming up at the same time. Very common. Often if a business is successful,the buiding owner will raise rent astronomically, assuming the tennants wil pay. Some do not. |
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ThingsComeAround

Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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Ive seen Panamie close (one near me and another at Daehwa)
Dunkin moved to the center of my block. Still plenty of cell phone stores- maybe two dozen within an eighth of a mile.  |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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I believe that in Korea a business must occupy the same storefront for a minimum of 10 months, even if they don't do well. Someone correct if wrong. |
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chrisinkorea2011
Joined: 16 Jan 2011
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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its not due to the rent or contracts a lot of the time, although im sure that could indeed happen to some. For the most part actually its placement of the business and its location adjacent to another one of the same company or a competitior. I have a few friends who are managers at different places and its the same story for them. One of them works at a dunkin doughnuts, they had huge profits, another opened up about 2 blocks away and it slashed their profits, (by how much im not sure) but it was the deciding factor. same with PB and the others. its like they come up like weeds to kill out the other weeds. |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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I live in a massive new town which just had the first businesses open about 18 months ago.......so it's crazy to see the slaughter going on......no one there is established. Everyone could survive or die. Every business owner is sweating buckets.
The 18 month mark seems to be sorting the wheat from the chaff......lots of small independent shops and restaurants are going under.
The main street near me is truly the avenue of broken dreams. |
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Slowmotion
Joined: 15 Aug 2009
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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I wish there was a bakery that made decent bread and more paris baguettes closed down |
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chrisinkorea2011
Joined: 16 Jan 2011
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Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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Slowmotion wrote: |
I wish there was a bakery that made decent bread and more paris baguettes closed down |
that would be awesome, and then maybe they would lower their prices lol |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:39 am Post subject: |
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eamo wrote: |
I live in a massive new town which just had the first businesses open about 18 months ago.......so it's crazy to see the slaughter going on......no one there is established. Everyone could survive or die. Every business owner is sweating buckets.
The 18 month mark seems to be sorting the wheat from the chaff......lots of small independent shops and restaurants are going under.
The main street near me is truly the avenue of broken dreams. |
There's a 24-hour Lotteria! |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:31 am Post subject: |
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Nol Bu keeps opening new restaurants. I normally avoid chains but his places do things right--good food and good service, which is harder to find than good food. |
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Murakano
Joined: 10 Sep 2009
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:16 am Post subject: |
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The Paris Baguette in Gangnam (CGV side) closed recently too. |
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Swampfox10mm
Joined: 24 Mar 2011
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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Sometimes I wonder if these places open and close so fast by design. Maybe as a front to launder "black money?" Given the stupidity of the locations of some places people open, you wonder if they put any thought or planning into what they were doing. It's hard to believe people can be so stupid. That's why I wonder if there isn't something else behind the scenes going on. |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:01 am Post subject: |
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I think it is linked to the prevalent thought here of 'it won't happen to me'. So many others have failed, but I will succeed.
Swampfox10mm wrote: |
Sometimes I wonder if these places open and close so fast by design. Maybe as a front to launder "black money?" Given the stupidity of the locations of some places people open, you wonder if they put any thought or planning into what they were doing. It's hard to believe people can be so stupid. That's why I wonder if there isn't something else behind the scenes going on. |
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