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ESL Milk "Everyday



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:36 am    Post subject: Korea is adopting British English over American?? Reply with quote

So my students had their nationwide English test today... and when I walked into my classroom, they were moaning and complaining and fretting over what had just happened to them, because apparently the K government has had the brilliant idea to switch their emphasis to British English after having spent so many years and having done up so many textbook CD-Roms using American English... and they couldn't figure out what the heck the test-giver was saying.

Can anyone tell me why they've decided to do this?

(And I really don't want to hear how British English is the best, blah blah blah with Americans saying 'remember WWII', etc. etc.)
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shostahoosier



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:26 am    Post subject: Re: Korea is adopting British English over American?? Reply with quote

ESL Milk "Everyday wrote:
So my students had their nationwide English test today... and when I walked into my classroom, they were moaning and complaining and fretting over what had just happened to them, because apparently the K government has had the brilliant idea to switch their emphasis to British English after having spent so many years and having done up so many textbook CD-Roms using American English... and they couldn't figure out what the heck the test-giver was saying.

Can anyone tell me why they've decided to do this?

(And I really don't want to hear how British English is the best, blah blah blah with Americans saying 'remember WWII', etc. etc.)


So wait...you're saying they tested the kids on spelling that they knew nothing about? Grammatically there shouldn't really be a big difference though right?

Did you see the test? I'm confused on how they knew it was British English.

A test that cant be passed by wrote memorization doesn't sound very Korean to me.
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BigBuds



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:31 am    Post subject: Re: Korea is adopting British English over American?? Reply with quote

shostahoosier wrote:
ESL Milk "Everyday wrote:
So my students had their nationwide English test today... and when I walked into my classroom, they were moaning and complaining and fretting over what had just happened to them, because apparently the K government has had the brilliant idea to switch their emphasis to British English after having spent so many years and having done up so many textbook CD-Roms using American English... and they couldn't figure out what the heck the test-giver was saying.

Can anyone tell me why they've decided to do this?

(And I really don't want to hear how British English is the best, blah blah blah with Americans saying 'remember WWII', etc. etc.)


So wait...you're saying they tested the kids on spelling that they knew nothing about? Grammatically there shouldn't really be a big difference though right?

Did you see the test? I'm confused on how they knew it was British English.

A test that cant be passed by wrote memorization doesn't sound very Korean to me.


Did it ever occur to you that it might be the British accent they're having trouble with.


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ESL Milk "Everyday



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, yeah, it was a listening test.

This is one of the examples of how the government seems determined to screw up English education permanently.

I'm not against diversity or whatever but when you have one accent in schools and books and another when it comes to the test, it's not going to work. My school has only had two NETs, both Canadian... and they're not exposed to the British accent anywhere.

So I guess they're going to have to fire me now.
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littlelisa



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple of years ago at my old school my students (grade 1) did some British-based English test. They had no trouble with the accent, but they did get confused by some words. I remember "trousers" being one of them. There were two parts to the test, written and listening, and it was in both parts. I remember on the written part there was a picture of pants/trousers and they had to unscramble the word "trousers", and one of my bright students told me after, "I didn't know the answer, but I think it was the same word I didn't know in the first part".

There had been an English guy at the school, though, so even though he wasn't their teacher, they did hear it sometimes.
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shostahoosier



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:45 am    Post subject: Re: Korea is adopting British English over American?? Reply with quote

BigBuds wrote:
shostahoosier wrote:
ESL Milk "Everyday wrote:
So my students had their nationwide English test today... and when I walked into my classroom, they were moaning and complaining and fretting over what had just happened to them, because apparently the K government has had the brilliant idea to switch their emphasis to British English after having spent so many years and having done up so many textbook CD-Roms using American English... and they couldn't figure out what the heck the test-giver was saying.

Can anyone tell me why they've decided to do this?

(And I really don't want to hear how British English is the best, blah blah blah with Americans saying 'remember WWII', etc. etc.)


So wait...you're saying they tested the kids on spelling that they knew nothing about? Grammatically there shouldn't really be a big difference though right?

Did you see the test? I'm confused on how they knew it was British English.

A test that cant be passed by wrote memorization doesn't sound very Korean to me.


Did it ever occur to you that it might be the British accent they're having trouble with.


I did think of that first, but every listening test I've heard here in Korea has been the same. They start with cheesy classical music, and then they have someone speaking pretty slowly. Even the TOPIK tests work this way. So even if it were a British accent..the grammar and vocabulary would be the same, the accent could make things a little more difficult, but unless you're working at a top-tier academic high school, how many topics will the test be over?

I have an easier time believing the kids just have poor listening comprehension skills (not saying you're a bad teacher by the way).

The question is about Korea switching to British English and nothing else sees to point to that....and of all years, this would have been the year since schools have been given the option of having choosing their own books.
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Ramen



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah! korea has caught on to our belief that speaking with british accent makes a person sound more intelligent and gentleman like. 007 like.

"My name is kim. Jinho kim." Razz
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itistime



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should say first and foremost I think students of a language should be exposed to as many accents as possible.



"and they couldn't figure out what the heck the test-giver was saying. "

This is it. I have Brit and Aussie friends that I must constantly ask to repeat themselves, because I don't understand what they've just said. But, I've also had friends from Carolina, N. Florida, Mississippi that would be just as misunderstood.

The students don't get as exposed to it.
It's probably also some silly marketing strategy that the gung-ho, business oriented owner has decided to adopt. Suck it up, students!
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ESL Milk "Everyday



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess that it could have been just that hearing that it was different made them nervous... so they panicked and it hurt their ability to think properly.

It was my high class and I know they're still not amazing or anything, but I have been able to carry on simple but coherent 10 minute conversations with them at my normal pace without needing translation.

I have to admit, I didn't hear the actual test, I just experienced the aftermath... so they were pretty wound up anyways.
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shifty



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ESL Milk "Everyday wrote:
I have to admit, I didn't hear the actual test.


OMG!!....vintage Milk Everyday.
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Swampfox10mm



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing wrong with the British accent.

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ED209



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They have to get their Ps and Qs ready for when they work in Tesco Homeplus. Not too mention Will and Kate will be honeymooning in Jeju.
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ESL Milk "Everyday



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shifty wrote:
ESL Milk "Everyday wrote:
I have to admit, I didn't hear the actual test.


OMG!!....vintage Milk Everyday.


You know what we really need on this site? An ignore function. Something where you can just add a special tag to a person's name, and then whatever they say won't appear on your screen. Pages of drama could be avoided!
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stevieg4ever



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another master stroke by the resident geniuses that are the Ministry of Education. A Nobel prize is on the way I am sure....

And this will make what difference I wonder? 0.00000001% + or -
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offtheoche



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems a little odd.

When I talk to my Canadian/Aussie/Kiwi/South African friends, I speak just as I would to my friends back home.

However, many Americans don't understand very basic slang and idioms, so I often have to dumb down the conversation and speak to our US friends and treat them as non native speakers.
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