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How many classes are too many to teach in a day?

 
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teatro



Joined: 31 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 7:50 am    Post subject: How many classes are too many to teach in a day? Reply with quote

Exploring other schools and was wondering how many classes are too many to teach in a day. I noticed most state 30 hours per week but the class load varies between this time. Some schools I've spoken with require 8 per day while others 6.

What is the "norm" for hogwans in Korea?

Anybody with insight into this is very welcome.

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Crois



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: You could be next so watch out.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can try and get paid preparation.
If not you could end up working 35 hours a week which really sucks.
Make sure you are only working at your hogwon. Thats my advice because i hate working at the other schools

Make sure that they class 40 minutes or 50 minutes as 1 hour. Well most of the time depending on class time.

Try and get a job where you have 25 minute lessons. Ie 25 minutes and then swap. But it doesnt matter.
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oneiros



Joined: 19 Aug 2003
Location: Villa Straylight

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It all depends on how long the classes are. Some hogwans have 50-60 minute classes, while some have shorter ones.

I worked at a school where I taught eight forty minute classes with three ten minute breaks through the day. It's pretty tough by the time you hit the last class of the night. I much prefer the hour long class scheme. Same amount of teaching time, but it feels like less, without considering prep time, marking etc.
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phaedrus



Joined: 13 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good would be no more than five 40min classes and preferably less. (200min)
You would have to prepare.

At a hagwon expect at least about 360 minutes per day teaching time.

If you are teaching this much you should be able to slack off on preparation and work no more than forty hours per week teaching and other.
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1 class is 1 too many. Wink
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tokki



Joined: 26 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

20 would be too many, thats for sure. Unless they were all 10 minutes long.
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been posting just that for years, no one can use you unless YOU let them.
Why oh why, would anyone sign a lousy contract!?!? Common sense ought to come into ones mind! 120 hours? No way! Only agree to "X" amount of classes PER month. I think 5 a day is more than fair at hokwons. 50 minute classes max. Universities? 10-15 hours a week is the average. Hokwons ARE NOT schools, they are a business and the owner could give a rats a$$ about the foreign teachers let alone the korean teachers. Most will use you and work you to death if you let them. True, some fair hokwon owners around. Have not met one but I have read on this site that some teachers are happy with the school and owner where they teach. It is a two way street, some teachers are lousy. Don't prepare, dress shabby, bad hair styles, bad breath, alcoholics, come to work at the last minute and run copies off the copy machine and call it a lesson and so on. Some complain on and on for no reason. If you have a valid reason, I'd complain also! But, use finesse. Contracts ARE
NEGOTIABLE. Get the best deal you can but don't screw over the owner.
No one forces anyone to come to korea. No one forces you to sign a contract.
By law, classes are 40 minutes for middle school students and 50 minutes for high school. Hokwon owners know this but they try and get around it and abuse it.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellofaniceguy wrote:
By law, classes are 40 minutes for middle school students and 50 minutes for high school. Hokwon owners know this but they try and get around it and abuse it.



Could you post links to this "law" please? Thank you.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 5:53 am    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

More than 6, regardless of length, is too much.
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tokki



Joined: 26 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 6:27 am    Post subject: Re: yes Reply with quote

Ilsanman wrote:
More than 6, regardless of length, is too much.


Ill take 8 20 minute classes, thanx.
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 5:21 pm    Post subject: classes Reply with quote

definately specify how many classes a day you want to work.
make sure your contract specifies what a teaching hour is..any time over 40 minutes. I think that doing 1/2 hour of prep time per day is acceptable anything over that should be paid.

Right now I teach from 2-930 mon-fri
classes about 55 a week Crying or Very sad makes me babo Shocked Crying or Very sad Laughing Crying or Very sad
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Arthur Fonzerelli



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I draw the line at 3 (1 hour) classes per day...
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hereinkorea



Joined: 28 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm teaching 8-9 forty minute classes a day, ranging from kindergarten to 8th/9th grade. Too much?
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lush72



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just because wrote:
1 class is 1 too many. Wink



totally agree here! Cool
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