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shifty
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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Milk, I referred to it like you say as 'lack of reading comprehension' for ease of reference.
What I really meant is your inability to absorb salient facts. Like a headless chicken. Your style resembles that of a headless chicken. |
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ESL Milk "Everyday
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| I disagree. |
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shifty
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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For example, this flagrant abuse of the OP you say:
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| Okay, he had to work for 3 days unpaid, Maybe I just didn't think it was worth mentioning??? |
You were so intent on spewing your standard response in all cases like these, that it just didn't register with you..
Now you can't even admit this to yourself and thrash around in all directions with red herrings like 'it comes and goes' and 'not worth mentioning'.
The only leeway you give yourself for self-credibility is sticking in the word 'maybe'. |
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Busanjon
Joined: 28 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:07 am Post subject: |
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| are you sure you have to pay that high maitenance fee every month? When I moved into my appartment I had to pay a one time fee of about 130,000. After this, I will only have to pay basic utilities. Atleast thats what they say... We'll see. |
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marsavalanche
Joined: 27 Aug 2010
Location: where pretty lies perish
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| Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:30 am Post subject: |
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What about my post makes you think I'm untrustworthy? That's a pretty low comment....
I didn't experience culture shock. This is my second country in Asia I've lived in and I didn't experience it in the first one either. I'm honestly really happy with my living experiences in Asia so no problems there.
Even though I have no problems quitting based on the reasons listed, I'm also quitting because of an even bigger problem with my job, that I won't disclose due to privacy concerns. Something that someone in my home country would hire a lawyer for, but me leaving is easier than me going through all of that in a foreign country. Which is why I'm not going to feel bad about it.
But I want to thank those that gave feedback, much appreciated. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:34 am Post subject: |
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| No worries OP but you are not quitting, you are pulling a runner. Two very different things. |
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shifty
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:16 am Post subject: |
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| marsavalanche wrote: |
| What about my post makes you think I'm untrustworthy? That's a pretty low comment.... |
The poster who said above should be placed in close confinement with your manager, the one that reckoned the medical for ARC should have been done at home. They're two peas in a pod.
Oops....she missed that snippet as well. Call out the National Guard again.
Paddy, I feel that he has to run, he has no choice. He isn't a charity and his employer is crooked from top to toe. I mean, we now hear that he's so bad it's unmentionable.
It would be the OP to cough the notice month for nothing, not us onlookers. He alone must carry the can. For some dubious 'honor' role.
If all the notice backers were forced to donate money to fund his notice month I think their ranks will thin rapidly. They will run. I mean not quit, I mean run.
Talk is cheap. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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| Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:33 am Post subject: |
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| Paddy, I feel that he has to run, he has no choice. He isn't a charity and his employer is crooked from top to toe. I mean, we now hear that he's so bad it's unmentionable. |
Yep thats what we hear....
Good luck to the OP anyway. |
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earthquakez
Joined: 10 Nov 2010
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:08 am Post subject: |
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| shifty wrote: |
| marsavalanche wrote: |
| What about my post makes you think I'm untrustworthy? That's a pretty low comment.... |
The poster who said above should be placed in close confinement with your manager, the one that reckoned the medical for ARC should have been done at home. They're two peas in a pod.
Oops....she missed that snippet as well. Call out the National Guard again.
Paddy, I feel that he has to run, he has no choice. He isn't a charity and his employer is crooked from top to toe. I mean, we now hear that he's so bad it's unmentionable.
It would be the OP to cough the notice month for nothing, not us onlookers. He alone must carry the can. For some dubious 'honor' role.
If all the notice backers were forced to donate money to fund his notice month I think their ranks will thin rapidly. They will run. I mean not quit, I mean run.
Talk is cheap. |
Erm, have you ever read other posts of Mars Avalanche's, the ones where he's not begging for positive reinforcement re his midnight run or asking people to give him advice on his contract? He or she has certainly been arrogant and condemnatory about other posters' problems. They also know how to turn around and sh%%t talk posters who give them good advice about aspects of their contract. They did it to me - popped up in a thread to add their pennorth when another poster decided they'd rather not engage in a debate but let their slagging side take over.  After I helped Mars on a contract thread.
Based on Mr or Ms Avalanche's general belligerence around the cafe on too many threads, I'd say they put their employer's nose out of joint from day one. Re the maintenance fee, the shittiest one rooms I lived in charged around 70,000 won per month maintenance and the manager was often unavailable.
Unpaid training periods, too, are fairly common at hagwons in Korea. I've heard of them stretching to over a week so Mr or Ms Avalanche got off rather lightly in comparison with 3 days.
As for the messing around with the ARC or whatever - maybe that's more about Mr or Ms Avalanche's winking and nodding at their employer's lack of straightforward dealings with Immigration in the first place for whatever reason. Seems like they were prepared to do some not above board procedures (under the table?) and that's why for all the huffing and puffing about how they can't give certain details about some mystery occurrences, they are too afraid to go to Immigration because they have done wrong as well. 
Goodbye and good ridddance Mr or Ms Mars! I hear schools in the northeast area of Japan are desperate for teachers - maybe you can go and work there. |
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Carl_00
Joined: 18 May 2009
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:24 am Post subject: |
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Any clarity on the ARC card situation?
I bailed about 6 months ago having applied for the ARC (I think) and leaving before I received it. What's the dealio with returning? And if, when would the problem arise - applying for the Visa issuance number or arrival at the airport? |
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shifty
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| earthquakez wrote: |
Erm, have you ever read other posts of Mars Avalanche's? I helped Mars on a contract thread.
Unpaid training periods, too, are fairly common at hagwons in Korea. I've heard of them stretching to over a week so Mr or Ms Avalanche got off rather lightly in comparison with 3 days. |
It certainly appears that Mars made a mistake backchatting you after you had helped him. Wouldn't warm the cockles of my heart either.
I wasn't familiar with the poster marsavalanche prior to this thread. But there again I never take note of names unless a poster says something remarkable. For fear of cluttering my mind. 
I would agree that unpaid training can be regarded as fairly common, though I have my doubts. Where I take issue is that he had to train himself. It was just a sly trick of the employer with a strong indication of shenanigans to come.
I still maintain that 105000 won for maintenance ALONE is stratospheric.
It would make the prospect of working in Korea so counterproductive. That it is bogus as well is insult added to injury.
The manager told him the medical for ARC should have been done in his home country which would make anyone apoplectic. I would tell such a manager to stay away from me at all times.
I think earthquakez, he erred mightily by rounding on you. Would you mind posting the thread for a quick overview? |
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dunkman_nz
Joined: 31 Dec 2010
Location: New Zealand
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:11 am Post subject: |
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| in my building, I pay close to 200k for maintenance, electricity etc all up. Its just run of the mill officetel. |
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OculisOrbis
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:20 am Post subject: |
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Any clarity on the ARC card situation?
I bailed about 6 months ago having applied for the ARC (I think) and leaving before I received it. What's the dealio with returning? And if, when would the problem arise - applying for the Visa issuance number or arrival at the airport? |
If you bailed before the ARC was issued, your visa automatically dies 90 days after the day you first entered into korea. You are now free to apply for a new visa and start working here again.
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shifty
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:24 am Post subject: |
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| dunkman_nz wrote: |
| in my building, I pay close to 200k for maintenance, electricity etc all up. Its just run of the mill officetel. |
Um, dunkman is it?? Electricity is NOT included in the subject at hand. That is, NOT included!!!!!!!! |
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jrwhite82
Joined: 22 May 2010
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| Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:43 am Post subject: |
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Mars - Is this one of the schools I or others specifically told you not to sign with in the contract review thread? I'm not saying that to rub it in your face or for a "told you so" moment. I'd just like to know if the feedback we gave about what was shady about those contracts you posted was accurate or not for future reference.
Anyway, if it's as bad as you say, then get the heck out.
I don't agree with everything you post on here, but I still hope the best for you. You, as well as all of us, (including me too) could probably work on being a little nicer to everyone. Good luck dude. |
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