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Bored at PS- 'Teaching' adults at YBM/Pagoda an Upgrade?
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matt7



Joined: 03 Mar 2011

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, you seem like you just want to make cash in a short period of time so get a job at WSI if you can. Most workers there have a CELTA or at least a few years teaching experience. There are hires that lack the former but these people had private sector experience back home making them good for corporate classes and private in house 1 on 1s that pay significantly more. I was one of them. Since I was hired I've pretty much taken on any extra class I can get. And yes that means working every Saturday and taking splits to cover other teachers. Also being part-time I got another part time job in the morning/afternoon doing similar type classes at another private Hagwon which is now LEGAL. Result? I'm teaching anywhere from 44-48 hours a week (this week I did 50)depending on cancelations 630AM-10PM and even though I feel like I'm selling my soul, it is doable because the WSI system is extremely comfortable for teachers unlike PAgoda and YBM AND, well, the amount deposited in my bank account at the end of the month after deductions is pretty nice.

Now I wasn't just given these classes. I had to work to get them but anyone could really do what I'm doing. WSI management is good and they will reward you if you work hard. Some people think I'm nuts and I'm going to burn out. THey're right. I'm 6 months into doing this and I feel my health significantly deteriorating. My plan was only to do this for 8 months to save 30k USD for grad school and I'm almost there even with May and June still left. I also have absolutely no life at all. But an 8 month sacrifice for no debt from grad school is well worth it. I refuse to study online

Apply to WSI and get hustling. Bbali Bbali!
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edwardcatflap



Joined: 22 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just curious, but how does having multiple jobs work out with income tax? Do they tax you cumulatively with each extra job you do or work it out as a percentage for each job separately? Presumably, if everything was above board, the former would be the case.
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Clippa



Joined: 19 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

matt7 wrote:
OP, you seem like you just want to make cash in a short period of time so get a job at WSI if you can. Most workers there have a CELTA or at least a few years teaching experience. There are hires that lack the former but these people had private sector experience back home making them good for corporate classes and private in house 1 on 1s that pay significantly more. I was one of them. Since I was hired I've pretty much taken on any extra class I can get. And yes that means working every Saturday and taking splits to cover other teachers. Also being part-time I got another part time job in the morning/afternoon doing similar type classes at another private Hagwon which is now LEGAL. Result? I'm teaching anywhere from 44-48 hours a week (this week I did 50)depending on cancelations 630AM-10PM and even though I feel like I'm selling my soul, it is doable because the WSI system is extremely comfortable for teachers unlike PAgoda and YBM AND, well, the amount deposited in my bank account at the end of the month after deductions is pretty nice.

Now I wasn't just given these classes. I had to work to get them but anyone could really do what I'm doing. WSI management is good and they will reward you if you work hard. Some people think I'm nuts and I'm going to burn out. THey're right. I'm 6 months into doing this and I feel my health significantly deteriorating. My plan was only to do this for 8 months to save 30k USD for grad school and I'm almost there even with May and June still left. I also have absolutely no life at all. But an 8 month sacrifice for no debt from grad school is well worth it. I refuse to study online

Apply to WSI and get hustling. Bbali Bbali!


This is EXACTLY what I was thinking and wanted to do.

Thank you for the reply!

I will get started on the professional photograph now.

If anyone can share some good tips in additional to a perfect resume please share Smile
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th0ughts



Joined: 07 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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rowdie3



Joined: 22 Sep 2003
Location: Itaewon, Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

th0ughts wrote:
I worked for WSI, but got a bad impression of their employment practices. Perhaps I just got unlucky.
    - They didn't bother getting back to me after my first interview.
    - In my second interview, Neil told me I'd be able to choose my apartment in person, but that didn't happen.
    - They didn't supply me with a bed for almost two weeks. I tried sleeping on a mat, but couldn't, so I kept telling them I couldn't sleep on a mat, and I paid out of my own pocket for a motel, hoping to guilt them into paying for it. They wouldn't refund the motel money, because 'we thought you were sleeping on a mat'.
    - I quit my contract early, and they said they would send my final month's salary to me, but never did.
    - I asked for a Certificate of Employment, which Korean companies are legally-obliged to supply, but they didn't bother to respond.


Well, sounds like you were not a very good employee and a general complainer. I wouldn't say your experience was typical at all. In fact, in my four years with the company, you are the first to complain about these things.

WSI hires adults who can take of themselves. If you don't have a bed, go buy one. Don't go sleep in a motel and expect them to pay you back.
You quit your contract early and were expecting favors after the fact? Not likely.

You get what you give. Sounds like you were a whiner and complainer who left early. NO SYMPATHY.

The post from the guy above who has saved 30 million in 8 months by working hard and getting extra classes is a typical example of how one can be successful at WSI. Most people who work like this easily clear 5 million a month and are still happy and likeable people. Well done to that guy for reaching his savings goal.
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th0ughts



Joined: 07 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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myenglishisno



Joined: 08 Mar 2011
Location: Geumchon

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say teaching adults is a step down from what you're doing. The pay may be more but the hours and stress are double. You're better off teaching kids.
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young_clinton



Joined: 09 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you get paid your salary every month with its benefits and vacations and everything else? You should take a look at the economic conditions around you and the job situation. Resign the contract and keep it all.
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Clippa



Joined: 19 Feb 2010

PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have my first interview for the Wall Street Institute tomorrow. Thanks for everyone advice and help. I am really surprised / glad I got my "foot" in the door - Thanks for the comments! Smile
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