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cosmic charlie



Joined: 03 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:45 am    Post subject: New F-6 visa Reply with quote

Came across this article today. What is your opinion?

SEOUL, April 29 (Yonhap) -- South Korea plans to issue special visas for foreigners who immigrate to the country to marry locals as part of efforts to enhance administrative efficiency in helping them adapt to a new life and settle legal problems and other issues, the Justice Ministry said Friday.

The ministry said it is also pushing to lower the barrier for foreign investors and professionals to get permanent residency here.

The ministry will soon announce a revision rule to that effect with the aim of enforcing it starting in the latter half of this year, an official said.

South Korea has seen a rapid increase in the number of marriage immigrants in recent years, with their total number exceeding 141,000 last year, according to official data. Until now, those immigrants have been granted the same "F-2" visa as other long-term foreign residents here.

"Various categories of long-term residents are qualified for the current F-2 visa, posing limitations on policymaking for marriage immigrants," the official said on the customary condition of anonymity. "We expect the introduction of a separate visa will remove a large number of such difficulties."

The new "F-6" visa is intended to raise efficiency and convenience in the government's handling and support of so-called marriage immigrants, the official added.

Foreigners whose Korean spouses have died or gone missing would also be eligible for the visa.

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Chris.Quigley



Joined: 20 Apr 2009
Location: Belfast. N Ireland

PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

141000 people married into Korea last year? Holy crap.... That's huge. I believe that Canada accepts less than 200,000 immigrants each year, probably only a small fraction of those are people who married in.
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Wiltern



Joined: 23 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris.Quigley wrote:
141000 people married into Korea last year? Holy crap.... That's huge.


Reading comprehension is not your forte.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll have little effect on most people here. The amount of western foreigners who marry Koreans is actually quite low. Most of those numbers come from the rest of Asia. We do get people who cruise through the forum looking for info, but of the total E-1/2/7 population who actually do it, it's a very very tiny drop in the bucket.

My guess is there is a plan to give special benefits to those married to Koreans vs other people living here as they have a different connection to the country, and there is no reason they shouldn't do that.
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Koreadays



Joined: 20 May 2008

PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some one has to take those 3d jobs.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreadays wrote:
some one has to take those 3d jobs.
Thats got absolutely nothing to do with it
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:
Koreadays wrote:
some one has to take those 3d jobs.
Thats got absolutely nothing to do with it




Actually it does have some to do with it.

Why do you think foreign males can get an F visa when they couldn't before? They powerful lobbying power of the handful of westerners that married Koreans? Nope. I'll give you another guess....

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bekinseki



Joined: 31 Aug 2011
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bump.

So, anyone know the difference between this visa and an F-5?
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r122925



Joined: 02 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bekinseki wrote:
Bump.

So, anyone know the difference between this visa and an F-5?


The biggest difference is that the F-5 is permanent and requires no sponsor and the F-6 needs to be renewed each year and is sponsored by your spouse. For example, if you divorce as an F-6 holder you will probably not be able to renew (there are some exceptions, for example if you have Korean citizen children and you are granted custody). The F-5 never expires and never needs to be renewed. The only way to lose an F-5 is by committing a serious crime or residing outside of Korea for more than 2 years.
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No matter what visa you have, Korean immigration will finger print and photograph all of you foreigners at the airport when you enter the country.
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bekinseki



Joined: 31 Aug 2011
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

r122925 wrote:
bekinseki wrote:
Bump.

So, anyone know the difference between this visa and an F-5?


The biggest difference is that the F-5 is permanent and requires no sponsor and the F-6 needs to be renewed each year and is sponsored by your spouse. For example, if you divorce as an F-6 holder you will probably not be able to renew (there are some exceptions, for example if you have Korean citizen children and you are granted custody). The F-5 never expires and never needs to be renewed. The only way to lose an F-5 is by committing a serious crime or residing outside of Korea for more than 2 years.


They say an F6 survives if your spouse dies, disappears (not caused by you), or divorces you. I'm not sure if the latter means if you get dumped, or if your Korean spouse is at fault for the marriage breakup. So it sounds like a marginally improved F2 at best.
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alongway



Joined: 02 Jan 2012

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bekinseki wrote:
r122925 wrote:
bekinseki wrote:
Bump.

So, anyone know the difference between this visa and an F-5?


The biggest difference is that the F-5 is permanent and requires no sponsor and the F-6 needs to be renewed each year and is sponsored by your spouse. For example, if you divorce as an F-6 holder you will probably not be able to renew (there are some exceptions, for example if you have Korean citizen children and you are granted custody). The F-5 never expires and never needs to be renewed. The only way to lose an F-5 is by committing a serious crime or residing outside of Korea for more than 2 years.


They say an F6 survives if your spouse dies, disappears (not caused by you), or divorces you. I'm not sure if the latter means if you get dumped, or if your Korean spouse is at fault for the marriage breakup. So it sounds like a marginally improved F2 at best.

Yes it is. In the past, if a Korean and a foreigner got married, and had kids if they divorced, or the Korean parent died, the foreigner may have had to leave the country. There was a story a few years ago about an american whose wife had died and they had 2 kids, but immigration told him he had to leave the country as his F2 was cancelled.

People in that situation would normally have to turn around and get an E-2 or some other visa to try and stay in the country. But that might mean a change of jobs if your current job wasn't sponsoring E-2s ,etc.

The new visa addresses that and there may be education given to businesses to indicate that F-6 holders are clearly known to be spouses of Koreans as opposed to all the various things an F-2 holder can be.
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nathanrutledge



Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I gather, there is absolutely ZERO change from the F-2 by marriage and the new F-6. If you read the second to last line, this is an adminstrative thing to make it easier for the government to implement policy (i.e. discriminate).

F-2 visa holders getting uppity for rights? Well now, they can easily mess with people who are here by merit vs. those that are here by marriage. People by marriage have a Korean sponsor, a Korean family that might get pissed, but those who are here by earning points or by working at the same job don't.

Taking the KIIP program - people who are married only have to complete the first 3 levels, while people who aren't married have to take all six. Plenty of examples out there of different standards for F-2 holders - now it just makes it official.
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alongway



Joined: 02 Jan 2012

PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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From what I gather, there is absolutely ZERO change from the F-2 by marriage and the new F-6. If you read the second to last line, this is an adminstrative thing to make it easier for the government to implement policy (i.e. discriminate).

In the past, unless you had kids on an F2 I don't believe you could stay in Korea if your spouse died or disappeared. Divorce was only in the case that the korean spouse was proven at fault (say adultery)
This makes it sound like the F6 allows you to stay in all those cases regardless of a kid.
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Lolimahro



Joined: 19 May 2009

PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nathanrutledge wrote:
Taking the KIIP program - people who are married only have to complete the first 3 levels, while people who aren't married have to take all six. Plenty of examples out there of different standards for F-2 holders - now it just makes it official.


This isn't exactly true. First of all, there are only 5 levels in the KIIP program, not six. How many/which levels you have to complete depends on your current Korean level. For example, I am not married to a Korean and scored about 53 on the level test; I had to enter at level 3 (Intermediate 1). When I complete the 5th level, I may apply for an F-2.

An acquaintance of mine is married to a Korean; she had a similar score to me, but because she is married to a Korean she went straight to level 5. When she completes it, she'll have citizenship. So I believe the point of skipping levels for spouses of Koreans is to fast-track citizenship, which I think is a good thing for spouses of Korean nationals. Then they and their children can get more benefits to which other Korean families are similarly entitled.
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